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New person just doesn’t understand Vegas.
Hi,
In the past I have dabbled in Avid – but have been excited about Vegas and the user friendliness it is renowned for. I used to do analogue editing many years ago – you know – with source monitor – destination monitor – insert editing etc.This is how Advid works.
However – I just dont understand Vegas.It doesnt appear to have normal traditional editing workflow.
Here’s my problem.
Avid basically works like this:
1) You have bins with captured video clips
2) You can easily view a clip in source window, put an in point, and out point, then you choose to insert edit in the destination track. To view another clip, this is done quickly by clicking on the clip in the bin. You can move from clip to clip easily.How does Vegas work?
Do you have to copy each clip to the time line track to view it? Then use the S key to splice out what you dont need? What happened being abble to review in source window first? How do I view multiple clips I am working with? I cant copy them all to the timline to view – its too cumbersome.Can some explain the basic Vegas philosophy/worlflow to me – I would really appreciate it – it just doesnt seem to be along the line of classic editing. I have viewed many tutorials – but they dont explain this issue. All they talk about is splicing what you dont want with the S key – no explanation of how to view captured clips.
Thanks,
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11 Replies
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Enable auto-preview in the Vegas explorer window.
Enable double click to Trimmer in your Options/Preferences.
both of these will help mimic the Xpress/Media Composer model.
You can also autopreview from bins in Vegas if you prefer to import your media to bins first.Douglas Spotted Eagle
VASSTCertified Sony Vegas Trainer
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What Douglas suggested should be what you’re looking for, but in terms of explaining the workflow philosophy… I think out of the box what Vegas is set up best for is what you described. You capture the footage from your shoot and it goes into the timeline. Then you use the splice tool and delete key to cut out what you don’t want. This is perfect for most of the work I do, but one thing I love about Vegas is its customization. There are a lot of options and people write all sorts of scripts for it, so that you can set it up to be streamlined for whatever type of work you do.
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Hi guys,
Much better. Another question if I may….Is there a way to join clips – I dont like having so segmented clips. Is there a way to group in my captured folder and on the timeline?Kind regards,
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if you looksee the latest Sony email, it has the entire trimmer workflow laid out in detail.
If you be missing that, looksee here:
https://www.sonycreativesoftware.com/news/article.asp?articleid=48&keycode=3510has screen captures etc – exactly what you be requesting.
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agreed that trying to edit long clips directly on the timeline is not that practical, and when you combine the trimmer with regions & markers and subclips, it be fiiiiiiiiiiiiiine
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highlight relevant clips and press ‘G’
to ungroup, select clips and press ‘U’
when you ungroup, you could unintentionally ungroup the related audio from a video clip
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This G and U function doesnt seem to work and one would expect.
I grouped clips – but they still separate them when I move one of them. I would expect that when I move a clip that is grouped with another – both clips will move – this is not what I am experiencing.
Kind regards,
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make sure IGNORE EVENT GROUPING is not turned on. It’s a button with a open lock, 2 buttons to the right of your Ripple button
CTRL + SHIFT + U
btw, your expectation is correct.
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The trimmer window can be used the same way as the preview window, the upper left in Avid. If thats the way your used to doing it. But I think your missing one of the great features. Using the s key to split the video is a way of getting the split close but you can just put the curser over the lower edge of the video in the time line and it will turn into a bracket which allows you to shorten by just dragging the edge. You can also lenthen it if you have handles in the video. You can drag the audio and video files back and forth in time and also from track to track for different compositing. Try putting the curser over the top edge to drag a fade in or out. Once you get used to Vegas you’ll never want to go back. Danny
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Danny,
Your method seems to work well, if you know what you want (or dont want)in you final video up front. ie, you simply go through and cut out the bits you dont want. BUT what happens when you are compiling, and you are doing a lot of inserts? ie going back and forth?
Without a trimmer setup it would be a nightmare?I get the feeling Vagas’s paradign may be good for short videos and when you know what you want – for longer videos – maybe not.
Maybe I am missing something – and I dont understand Vegas – (Hence the title of this post). I hope this is the case as I want to like it. but I simply cant see how Vegas paradigm works for longer projects.
Kind regards,
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for long projects, nested vegs work quite well, though I must admit, my v7 used to render faster than v8 nested vegs do.
OR, try opening multiple instances of vegas at once. Can be very efficient way of sorting the wheat from the chaff – just copy/paste between them.
OR one instance of vegas rendering / capturing while you work in another instance.
also, you can jump to a specific Marker or Region simply by typing that number. very efficient for jumping around a long timeline.
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