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  • New PC – Suggested spec?

    Posted by Ian Collister on April 20, 2008 at 4:19 pm

    Hi all
    I know i did a thread similar to this not to long ago, but im asking again in case anything has changed.

    I need to get a new pc, ill be using it for AE and Premier CS3, along with Photoshop and Illustrator CS3. Can anyone recommend me an off the shelf unit they have bough and used, or give me some advice on which processors, motherboards, graphics cards to be looking at? Which components should i be spending my money on? Big processor? More than one? Monster amounts of ram? How can i achieve fast bus speeds (ive been told i need these?) Not looking for a super computer, just something that will give me good performance. Im also aware that CS3 has some compatibility issues with some chip sets. Any info on this would be very welcome.

    Budget is somewhere between £600 – £1000 ish…

    All advice and wisdom is much appreciated.

    Thanks
    i

    Ian Collister replied 18 years ago 5 Members · 11 Replies
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  • Grant Swanson

    April 20, 2008 at 5:30 pm

    Well for your budget you won’t be able to get a super computer, but you can still come up with something decent.

    In my opinion, and I can speak from experience, the component you don’t want to skimp on is the graphics card. I highly recommend any of the Nvidia Quadro FX cards, the higher up in the product line the better. These are absolutely amazing.

    From there I would definitely say get a mulitcore processor.

    I really don’t think you need monster amounts of RAM, unless you’re doing something extremely intense (in which case you’d want to increase your budget) you don’t need any more than 2-4 gigs.

    If you make the graphics card your number one priority, then the CPU, you should have a pretty solid machine. And after those components just buy as much as you can staying within your budget.

    I know it’s a little vague, but I hope it helps some!

    -Grant Swanson

    PS – If you want something off the shelf, try looking in to a Mac Pro if you prefer Mac, or an HP Workstation if you prefer Windows.

  • Ian Collister

    April 20, 2008 at 6:02 pm

    Thanks for the advice, have seen some nice HP workstations.

    Also, does hard disk speed make a big difference? Do i need anything faster than 7200rpm?

    Cheers.

  • Steve Roberts

    April 20, 2008 at 6:58 pm

    [Grant Swanson] “In my opinion, and I can speak from experience, the component you don’t want to skimp on is the graphics card. I highly recommend any of the Nvidia Quadro FX cards, the higher up in the product line the better. These are absolutely amazing. “

    For AE, just go for a midrange card. AE’s implementation of Open GL is not very good, so most of us just switch it off. As long as the card is supported by AE, it’s good.

    As for the drive speed, it’s not as crucial with AE as it is with an NLE that has to access footage in real time. Since AE has to render every frame, processor speed and RAM is more important than drive speed. 7200 is fine for AE. Put your money into RAM and multi-processors.

  • James Benoit

    April 20, 2008 at 7:47 pm

    [Steve Roberts] “For AE, just go for a midrange card. AE’s implementation of Open GL is not very good, so most of us just switch it off. As long as the card is supported by AE, it’s good.”

    I disagree. OpenGL works great in AE as long as you have a workstation card, one tailored for video and 3D performance. You see, the mistake most people make when purchasing a workstation computer is to purchase a card that was actually meant for gaming, such as the Nvidia GeForce series, which are great cards, if your a gamer…

    You see the gaming cards, such as the GeForce series are set up to render the whole screen in one shot, and thus have lower floating point calculations.

    The Quadro cards are great for running multiple apps an processes simultaneously, and takes care of everything on your screen and UI for you.

    The GPU is probably the most important consideration when considering a new workstation computer, and I’ve been working with AE for years. I agree with the first post, set the GPU at #1, and the CPU at #2.

  • Ian Collister

    April 20, 2008 at 8:52 pm

    How would i find out if a card is supported by AE? What in the spec should i be looking for?

  • Steve Roberts

    April 20, 2008 at 9:09 pm
  • Grant Swanson

    April 21, 2008 at 12:20 am

    [Steve Roberts] “For AE, just go for a midrange card. AE’s implementation of Open GL is not very good, so most of us just switch it off. As long as the card is supported by AE, it’s good.”

    Well that’s very debatable. OpenGL works just fine if the card on the computer can support it, which not all AE-supported cards can do very well…for instance, I would not recommend a GeForce card for any sort of post-production work, they’re designed and built for games and other home-use applications, they simply don’t perform very well on video and 3D applications.

    I’m sticking with what I wrote earlier. Obviously a top of the line Quadro card such as the FX 4500 will cost to much to be reasonable. For your budget, you should check out the Quadro FX 1500. https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814133179

    Converted to the Pound, it’s right around £235, which is right in line with your budget.

    From there, again, spend your money on a dual/quad core CPU, and 2-4 gigs of RAM.

    7200 RPM should be plenty, how often do you use Premiere? Do work on long projects with it? If you do you may want to consider an “editing” drive that is built for speed, such as a 10k Raptor, which you’ll store your temporary video files onto while your editing, and save the final clips to a separate, larger drive.

    Those HP’s are nice, I’ve worked on a few of them, with very few hiccups. I did a little looking for you, and they have three different performance levels (https://www.hp.com/sbso/busproducts-workstations.html), all of which should be within you budget when converted out of US dollars.

    I hope this helped!

    -Grant Swanson

  • Bryan Bush

    April 21, 2008 at 5:52 am

    Don’t buy off the shelf! Just my 2 cents, maybe it has gotten better since last time I checked it out.

  • Steve Roberts

    April 21, 2008 at 12:36 pm

    [Grant Swanson] “OpenGL works just fine if the card on the computer can support it, which not all AE-supported cards can do very well…”

    Now there’s a statement. If that’s the case, Adobe better tighten up their testing. But maybe they don’t want to make a list with only two cards in it …? 🙂

    I’ll add that caveat to any OpenGL statements I make in the future. Thanks, Grant!

  • Ian Collister

    April 21, 2008 at 12:47 pm

    Having had a look around, and taken some other advice from friends, i think i might pick one of these up:

    https://www.johnlewis.com/230472307/Product.aspx

    Your thoughts and comments would be much appreciated.

    Cheers
    I.

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