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New Mac Pro? I’m waiting patiently
Otto Preminger replied 12 years, 9 months ago 37 Members · 168 Replies
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Jeremy Garchow
April 5, 2012 at 2:24 pm[Gary Huff] “Have you? It used to be a huge PITA, but now it’s quite streamlined, and given the new unified NVIDIA driver architecture for OSX, seems like it’s getting easier.”
Heck no.
It’s hard enough to get work done, and to do that without having a supported and warrantied machine to look after? Not my style.
If the switch to windows is in the cards, it will be with a supported company that has a phone number that I can call when the computer has a bad day.
[Gary Huff] “The best chance of success is to find components that are most compatible, and there are some great resources for helping you do just that.”
I’m sorry, but there’s just no way that I’d even think of it.
Jeremy
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Gary Huff
April 5, 2012 at 2:25 pmThe fact that you’re scared to do it doesn’t mean that others might not be interested.
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Herb Sevush
April 5, 2012 at 2:31 pm[Frank Gothmann] ” I think there will be shift towards other codecs over time, especially when towers go.”
I agree. I think there will be a switch even if the towers don’t go, one of the consequences of Apple’s walking away from the dominance of FCP. But I’m not a long time planner, my needs are immediate, I have to jump one way or another by the end of May, and Apple’s silence is killing me.
Long term I think many of us will be working on Linux boxes and delivering in codecs that haven’t been announced or even developed yet. But long term doesn’t pay the rent.
Herb Sevush
Zebra Productions
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Jeremy Garchow
April 5, 2012 at 2:35 pm[Frank Gothmann] “However, due to the legal situation in Europe, you can buy legit Hackintoshes in Germany for example.
It’s mainly small companies offering them, not too many, but they do offer support for those machines. Eg: (https://pearc.de/).”I hope Apple takes a cue, and does this for the rest of the world. I am glad that other countries are forcing Apple to play fair. I read the other day about how Apple has to offer 2-year warranties on iDevices in certain places.
[Frank Gothmann] “True, but most compositing, color correction and restoration tools have a very strong standing and background on Linux. There was a time when almost none of them were available on the Mac in the old PPC days, prior to Apple buying Shake. That situation might reocurre if Mac towers fall and strong gpus are not an option.”
I understand, but now Linux doesn’t help us editing types, especially in mixed computer environs.
Just curious, but what GPU did you buy for your PC?
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David Roth weiss
April 5, 2012 at 2:38 pm[Steve Connor] “I know Win 7 is good and that PC boxes can be faster and cheaper, I just prefer working in an OSX environment.”
There is a certain “feel” that Apple imparts and which seems to elude Microsoft. It’s difficult, if not impossible, to describe, but it’s often mentioned as feeling “clunky,” and I think there is something to that. However, I do think Windows has improved this in ver. 7, and I hope 8 will be even better.
David Roth Weiss
ProMax Systems
Burbank
DRW@ProMax.com
http://www.ProMax.com
Sales | Integration | SupportDavid is a Creative COW contributing editor and a forum host of the Apple Final Cut Pro forum.
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Jeremy Garchow
April 5, 2012 at 2:38 pm[Gary Huff] “The fact that you’re scared to do it doesn’t mean that others might not be interested.
“Scared? No.
Penny wise, pound foolish.
I’d do it on a home machine, but not in our SAN tied production environment.
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Andrew Richards
April 5, 2012 at 2:40 pm[Frank Gothmann] “But just out of curiosity – what is it that you prefer in OSX compared to windows beyond just being used to it more?”
I have an acute allergic reaction to backslashes.
(OK, that is a slight exaggeration).
But seriously, Windows is crummy in so many ways:
- DLL Hell
- The Registry (and the all too frequent necessity to muddle with it)
- Drive letter assignments (instead of proper UNIX arbitrary mounting)
- The Ribbon/Aero (talk about sloppy overwrought chrome)
- Convoluted control panels (or bafflingly absent ones, like NTP setup)
- Ugly screen fonts
…it just isn’t UNIX!
I’m much happier in Linux or FreeBSD than I am when I have to dip into the Windows sewer. OS X has its warts (HFS+, the networking foibles you noted, and seriously lagging OpenGL support), but they’ll get fixed long before any of my bullets above are dropped from Windows.
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Frank Gothmann
April 5, 2012 at 2:47 pm[Jeremy Garchow] “Just curious, but what GPU did you buy for your PC?”
It was the HP config with the Quadro 4000 preinstalled. We will probably get a z820 with a Quadro 6000 in summer as I intend to do all of my 2k PFClean work on this machine and it likes Cuda plus there are those Quadro SDI output options.
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Gary Huff
April 5, 2012 at 2:49 pmDLL Hell: What are you doing that requires you to mess around with DLL files? I’m always in the guts of my system and rarely have to mess with this.
The Registry (and the all too frequent necessity to muddle with it): How frequently and why? I’ve hit up the Registry my fair share of times too, but only for special circumstances, and since Windows 7, it’s incredibly rare as well.
Drive letter assignments (instead of proper UNIX arbitrary mounting): Completely agree with this. This is archaic and needs to die. I’m sure Microsoft only keeps it because it would otherwise be a huge compatibility break.
The Ribbon/Aero (talk about sloppy overwrought chrome): I don’t really see this as a problem. I think Windows 7’s interface is actually kind of nice.
Convoluted control panels (or bafflingly absent ones, like NTP setup): OSX’s System Preferences is only marginally better IMHO, though Windows 7’s customized control panel interface can make it really hard to find stuff. You can turn that off and basically make it look like OSX’s though.
Ugly screen fonts: Never noticed this.
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