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New Mac Pro? I’m waiting patiently
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[Bret Williams] “Why would they support pice cards if none of their computers have pice slots?”
Even Macs without PCIe expansion slots use the bus for their GPUs and other internals. Thunderbolt uses PCIe such that according to Intel, PCIe and DisplayPort drivers are all an OS needs to address Thunderbolt-connected devices.
Best,
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It’s funny, because I prefer editing on tracks and yet according to same I’m scared of the advance of technology by thinking that. some people hey!? Just born muppets I guess.
I have no doubt some prefer the OSX environment. I currently do. But I also think the quoted point has validity in as much as there is a lot of fear based on history. I imagine a stripped out win7 environment where geek machine builders have removed the unnecessary crap from it is a stable and solid one to edit in. And I imagine that there is a chance that one would end up just as happy in it.
Personally my only fear isn’t embracing a new editing paradigm, one which I think is insanely stupid because it has no tracks, but rather leaving the safety of OSX snow leopard and all the software I have built up which enables me to do what I need, not least of all QT7 Pro, which Apple bury deeper and deeper with each new release it seems.
It seems most likely a full transition from FCP7 will happen for me over the next year and to PP6 I would guess, as I’m hoping adobe add the little stuff that fcp7 had that makes editing so much easier for me..and with that transition I will seriously consider moving to a PC as I’ve heard a fair amount of decent feedback about the idea on here and through friends who do music and shifted.
I did recently buy an ipad3 and have to admit for lying in bed reading the web and messing around with games when I’m bored and the such it is much better than my iPhone and my zoom tablet, and I guess that’s the point. Apple are now toy makers and motly good at it..remember, according the apple we are in a post PC world. Not because we are but because Apple can’t be arsed to focus on anything other than iToys and they’re trying to convince us through PR that that is the case. Which by the way, it isn’t.
We still not in a post vinyl age let alone a post cd age so anyone who believes we are in a post pc age because swathes of the middle classes have bought iPads as coffee table toys is off the mark somewhat.
To me, the moment I realised/believed apple were no longer the Apple I loved and whom supported and aided my business was when I had to get a n monitor and their 24″ one, which replaced the beautiful 23″ ones, came with no off button…. And did so because it turns itself off when you turn your mac off, whereas I leave my mac on doing stuff whilst I turn my monitor off so it doesn’t t glow at me whilst I’m doing other things. At this moment I saw apple thinking consumers turn their macs off when they are finished doing email and dicking around on Facebook so who needs an on / off button. Not consumers.
apple, for all their ability, are now just a toy company to all intents and purposes. Which is fine. But what really irks is that the richest company in the world could, without batting an eyelid, have retained a small core pro apps department and developed and sold FCS and ProMacs at break even in terms of finances and it wouldn’t have made a blind bit of difference to them. In fact they’d have employed more people so as well as keeping all the creatives who have gone a long way to evolving the ‘cool’ perception consumers have had about apple on board with the apple brand and happy with apple, they’d have been doing something positive for the American economy by reducing unemployment. And this little department wouldn’t have stopped them raking in the cash on their iToys.
That is what p!sses me off the most about this whole fcp10 debacle. Is that they showed no respect for their past and shat on those that were there for them when they needed them.
And just because the sole purpose for a company is to pay shareholders dividends doesn’t mean they have to be arseholes. I believe you can make money and be thoughtful at the same time.
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Definitely not anything Shane heard from me Jeremy. I’m as shocked to hear this as anyone. Not that it’s unexpected, just that someone plausible may have confirmed what many have been concerned about.
Believe me, if we do lose Apple workstations, it will be a terrible loss for our industry.
David Roth Weiss
ProMax Systems
Burbank
DRW@ProMax.com
http://www.ProMax.com
Sales | Integration | SupportDavid is a Creative COW contributing editor and a forum host of the Apple Final Cut Pro forum.
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[Jules bowman] “Personally my only fear isn’t embracing a new editing paradigm, one which I think is insanely stupid because it has no tracks, but rather leaving the safety of OSX snow leopard and all the software I have built up which enables me to do what I need, not least of all QT7 Pro, which Apple bury deeper and deeper with each new release it seems.”
Sticking with OSX and macs doesn’t mean you have to edit on FCPX.
There are track based editors that are not FCP7.
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I’m confused by your reply. it’s kind of obvious that there are other options other than FC10, and I stated in my very next paragraph that I was considering CS6.
And my point as a whole there was one about switching from OSX to Windows being daunting when i feel ‘safe’ in OSX because being ‘safe’ and ‘familiar’ with OSX doesn’t mean that it is better than Windows for my, and others, needs… but one part of it is that at the moment the thought of trying to replace all the little bits of software with Windows equivalents is off putting in itself.
So I don’t really get the point of your post. Sorry.
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[Jeremy Garchow] “Sticking with OSX and macs doesn’t mean you have to edit on FCPX. “
Yes, you can stay with OSX as long as you don’t need PCIe, multiple processors, expanded memory, or a cuda enabled video card.
Herb Sevush
Zebra Productions
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nothin’ attached to nothin’
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[David Roth Weiss] “Definitely not anything Shane heard from me Jeremy. I’m as shocked to hear this as anyone. Not that it’s unexpected, just that someone plausible may have confirmed what many have been concerned about.”
Hmm. I didn’t even think about that, David.
Now that we have you, what have you heard? Is ProMax still selling MacPros?
[David Roth Weiss] “Believe me, if we do lose Apple workstations, it will be a terrible loss for our industry.”
It will make things weird for a while, but we’ll be ok, and I mean the collective we.
What I think about is a lot of After Effects artists. I know a fair amount and they are Mac folks through and through. I’m not super terribly worried about a Windows switch. It’s going to suck, it’s going to be expensive, and it’s going to take a lot of time, but I’m sure we can do it if we fracking have to. Some of the AE folks aren’t going to be very happy at all.
Jeremy
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[Herb Sevush] “Yes, you can stay with OSX as long as you don’t need PCIe, multiple processors, expanded memory, or a cuda enabled video card.”
Huh?
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It seems to me you were saying OSX = trackless timeline and FCPX.
Apple = toy maker.
You then said adobe and windows.
Perhaps I misunderstood.
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ah, fair enough. No, wasn’t being that black and white. I do see Apple as toy makers these days, yes, and rather good at it they are too. But my point was more about Windows versus OSX which I am interested in because I like OSX to a degree but mostly am ‘settled’ in it and to me that ‘settling’ hinders me from transferring over to Windows when it may be better all round (cheaper machines with more power, more easy to change them, apparently Premier runs better in Windows, not at the mercy of Apple and their obsession with secrecy and a ‘post-PC’ world in which most of us don’t actually live, etc etc.)
At the same time I know that there is more available than FC10 on Apple, but it seems even with PP I am limited in the graphics cards available that I would need to benefit from it on a Mac. I guess i’m just getting a tad tired with having Apple want to do everything for me and limiting all my choices. And I’ll never forget and forgive the EOL of what was fundamentally very good and much loved software, because yes, it is going to waste a lot of my time when I switch to something else… time i’d rather have spent sat on my arse on the Heath in the sunshine if truth be told, and it all feels like it could have been very avoidable, as i touched on at the end of my original post.
I’m experimenting with PP5.5 at the moment and I truly hope adobe pull a rabbit out of the hat because at the moment it is making me miss FCP even more (yes, I still use 7 but that point is redundant going forward) by being frustrating in many ways where FCP7 seemed simple. Still, I don’t blame Adobe for that as I still blame Apple for even making me have to try and learn PP 🙂
Silly silly multi-national corporation. Silly.
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