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New Mac Pro “three years ahead of it’s time”
Andy Edwards replied 9 years, 9 months ago 19 Members · 41 Replies
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Bob Woodhead
October 15, 2016 at 11:41 amAnd you do have to give props to the thermal design… I think that’s the real brilliance in the Trashcan.
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Gary Huff
October 16, 2016 at 3:35 am[Bob Woodhead] “And you do have to give props to the thermal design”
The thermal design that keeps burning up the graphics cards?
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Bill Davis
October 16, 2016 at 4:03 amI haven’t heard of anyone burning up any machines en masse except that one instance of David Fincher’s team working on Gone Girl – and IIRC they had Adobe staff involved to “optimize” the Premiere Pro software performance – so who knows what they were doing under the hood.
Since those stories, I haven’t read of anyone running NLE operations on ANY software complaining of on-going “burn up” situations on MacPros.
Or have I missed something?
If not, it’s a bit of a stretch to blame a hardware design for a problem that may not actually be happening.
Are there legions of burnt up machines out there that nobody’s talking about?
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Darren Roark
October 16, 2016 at 4:38 am[Gary Huff] “The thermal design that keeps burning up the graphics cards?”
Using FCP X I’ve transcoded around 400 hours of Red footage with my ‘trashcan’.
No problems.
Must be some 3rd party machinations.
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Shane Ross
October 16, 2016 at 4:47 am[Bill Davis] “I haven’t heard of anyone burning up any machines en masse except that one instance of David Fincher’s team working on Gone Girl – and IIRC they had Adobe staff involved to “optimize” the Premiere Pro software performance – so who knows what they were doing under the hood.”
They lost FIVE of these tubes on DEADPOOL. Again, Adobe Premiere Pro.
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Walter Soyka
October 16, 2016 at 10:09 am[Bill Davis] ” haven’t heard of anyone burning up any machines en masse except that one instance of David Fincher’s team working on Gone Girl – and IIRC they had Adobe staff involved to “optimize” the Premiere Pro software performance – so who knows what they were doing under the hood.”
[Shane Ross] “They lost FIVE of these tubes on DEADPOOL. Again, Adobe Premiere Pro.”
[Darren Roark] “Using FCP X I’ve transcoded around 400 hours of Red footage with my ‘trashcan’. No problems. Must be some 3rd party machinations.”
Good hardware design means preventing software from ever causing physical damage. But don’t take my word for it (and you obviously don’t, since we’ve had this exact discussion before); listen to a hardware engineer:
https://forums.creativecow.net/thread/335/88655#88853[Bill Davis] “Are there legions of burnt up machines out there that nobody’s talking about?”
Maybe not, but there are legions of glitchy renders that seem to be mitigated by external cool or running the fan at full-tilt. Go to any Resolve forum and search for D700. Here’s a typical example:
https://forum.blackmagicdesign.com/viewtopic.php?f=21&t=51944Walter Soyka
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Herb Sevush
October 16, 2016 at 1:49 pm[Bill Davis] “they had Adobe staff involved to “optimize” the Premiere Pro software performance – so who knows what they were doing under the hood.”
Yes, what were those nefarious Adobians doing “under the hood?” – ritual sacrifice of little bunny rabbits, playing majang with marked tiles, smoking ether infused crack – Ooooooooh – so spooky and mysterious. And best of all they were — wait for it– “optomizing” and probably without a license. Damn those Adobians, no wonder the poor little trash can melted down, what chance did it have against all that evil.
As a public service and as a recent parent of my own cute little trash can I offer myself up to those Adobi-ites who are practicing ritualized under-the-hood un-licensed optomizing – Take Me. Take me and set all the rest of those little black tubes free. (And while your at it fix the stupid inability to delete multiple transitions.) TAKE MEEEEeeeeeee!
Herb Sevush
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Oliver Peters
October 16, 2016 at 2:26 pmAnd a few more links about glitchy issues:
https://9to5mac.com/2016/02/06/apple-mac-pro-repair-program-graphics-video/
https://www.bit-tech.net/news/hardware/2016/02/09/apple-faulty-mac-pro-gpus/1
https://www.macrumors.com/2016/02/06/late-2013-mac-pro-video-issues-repair-program/
https://www.digitalproductionme.com/article-9069-apple-mac-pro-users-feel-the-heat/
https://macperformanceguide.com/blog/2015/20151212_1206-MacPro2013-BadVideoCard.html
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Darren Roark
October 16, 2016 at 4:58 pmThe D700s do not have ECC from what I understand, and the Adobe situation may have been from them running a hacked version of CUDA to run on AMD chips.
I’ve melted enough things by taking liberties with settings.
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Mark Suszko
October 16, 2016 at 5:53 pm
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