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New Mac Pro
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Didn’t Phil say 3 controllers and 6 ports?
Steve Connor
There’s nothing we can’t argue about on the FCPX COW Forum
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[Chris Kenny] “how well will Resolve run with the on-board GPU options? They’re AMD, so no CUDA, which is less than ideal,”
If “less than ideal” translates to “non-starter”, as RESOLVE/CUDA processing stands for the moment, then “no problem”.
jPo
“I always pass on free advice — its never of any use to me” Oscar Wilde.
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[Vladimir Kucherov] “Thoughts?”
First impression is that it looks exactly like all those hotel cigarette ashcans that used to blight the landscape. Fill the top with some of that white silica sand and there you go…
jPo
“I always pass on free advice — its never of any use to me” Oscar Wilde.
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And why only 12 cores? Won’t there be a PC with the E5 chips running dual 8-core cpus that will be faster than the mac? And have PCIe slots? Sure it will be big and ugly. But Apple doesn’t realize we don’t care. How will the revolutionary new Mac Pro be able to keep up with a 16 core PC?
Chris Tomberlin
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[Nate Weaver] ” I don’t see any reason for Grant to go out of his way to say something like that other than it’s really the way he feels.”
Hard to say. However, having been around computers for ~ 40 years, whenever someone in sales says “this screams”, I assume that its around 5% faster and costs twice as much. Maybe I’ll be wrong this time, (like the time I was mistaken).
jPo
“I always pass on free advice — its never of any use to me” Oscar Wilde.
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It is very far from keeping up with a PC. Mac is dead to me.
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It does sound surprising to some people that Apple is not offering more cores than their current Mac Pro. However a system is the sum of its parts and it does appear to be designed for overall throughput with the very fast flash PCI SSD, fast memory that uses compression on idle memory before paging to that very fast SSD, very very capable dual GPUs with up to 6GB of video memory each! So much disappointment reflected in many of the posts here when Apple has shown quite a lot of information in their preview of the device, but it is still just a preview. The dress has been raised to show an ankle, but there is a lot of leg left to your imagination.
Personally I am not disappointed and the breaking news form Alex Gollner’s blog is that the machine is user configurable and will be serviceable so that the custom base architecture allows the cards to be upgradable.
Rick Lang
iMac 27” 2.8GHz i7 16GB
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Why only 12 cores? To keep costs down. Do you have any idea how much those Xeon processors cost? You would be complaining about cost if they offered a 24 core version for $13k, and you’d need a noisier fan to deal with the heat. Have you ever heard an XServe fire up? Yeah that kind of noise.
Each of those processors is probably around $2,000-3000. The GPUs are probably $3k each, so a decked out Mac Pro should cost around $10k.
My bet is the low end will be single GPU, 6 cores, for probably around $3k.
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David, I altered my post to make it clear that I was not another naysayer based on the preview we saw. I see how you could have thought I was being critical when I intended to support the design previewed. Hard to convey a tone of voice in a written post. Thanks.
Rick Lang
iMac 27” 2.8GHz i7 16GB
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If the 12 core is going to cost $10K (by your estimations) then a 24 core at $13K would be a reasonable deal. My point is not to complain or be a naysayer but to ask why Apple has FINALLY updated the Mac Pro and yet possibly hindered it’s ability to compete at the highest end by sacrificing power and throughput for the sake of cool design. As others on this forum have stated, TB2 does not have the bandwidth for external GPUs like PCIe3 does. If the built in cards are all you need then fine; but others need more and won’t be able to get it. What about that $4k Red Rocket card? Will TB2 be enough for that to still be useful? Dual processors? doesn’t seem to be an option.
Maybe in time, the entire industry will move everything over to TB2 and we’ll all replace all of our PCI cards with TB2 (or TB3 or TB4) widgets but in the mean time, the long awaited Mac Pro kinda throws a wrench in the way professionals are currently using their Macs. I know that is the Apple way – “innovation” at all costs. It reminds me a little of the transition away from CRT technology. Manufacturers stopped producing them years ago and we’re only now getting to some technology that can really replace them.
Hopefully it will all be great and things will be better than ever for the Mac Pro. If not, I’ll go another route. I just hate to see such a great OS limited in any way by the hardware options available.
Rant over,
Chris Tomberlin
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