New Ki Pro Mini

[Jeremy Garchow]

Can’t wait to see it.

[Stuart Cummings]

Aja has a page up on their site and a little video of it in action very cool indeed. And priced right too

[John Heagy]

Very nice! With all due respect… this what the Ki Pro should have been from the start.

Here’s my favorite sentence in the description:
“Flash cards function as standard HFS drives when connected to a Mac computer via any standard off the shelf Compact Flash reader”.
Finally!.. no more FAT32 NO_NAME volumes with 4GB “chunked” files. Somebody please tell me the Mini Formats the HFS CF cards with a unique volume name based on some user defined criteria… please! I’d be thrilled with a date stamp as volume name… anything but the same name over, and over, and over again!

Now.. make a Ki Pro Maxi that’s 19″ rack mountable with two 4GB fibre connections… kidding! First, release the new Ki Pro firmware so we get more than two channel audio… not kidding!

John Heagy

[Jeremy Garchow]

I’m sure the CF cards will be named similar to how they are on the current Ki, by reel name when the card was formatted.

[Fred Jodry]

John, if the software or KiPro output re-issues the same file-name over and over again then it`s recognizable to be renamed. Worse than something automatic that works but better than something that makes an automatic file-name that disappears, something that happens more often in Windows than Mac (or isoLinux). John, would you please drop an e- mail on my e- mail?

Re: New Ki Pro Mini
by John Heagy on Sep 12, 2010 at 12:26:03 am
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Here’s my favorite sentence in the description:
“Flash cards function as standard HFS drives when connected to a Mac computer via any standard off the shelf Compact Flash reader”.
Finally!.. no more FAT32 NO_NAME volumes with 4GB “chunked” files. Somebody please tell me the Mini Formats the HFS CF cards with a unique volume name based on some user defined criteria… please! I’d be thrilled with a date stamp as volume name… anything but the same name over, and over, and over again!

John Heagy

[John Heagy]

I suppose if one is loading/copying one card at a time the same name is okay, but not when you mount 5 P2 cards all coming up NO_NAME it invites errors. I’d much prefer a unique name that can be tracked back to the the camera or recording device that created it. Serial number and date_time of format would be perfect.

KP_12345_09152010_1732

[Fred Jodry] “please drop an e- mail”
What’s your email Fred?

[Jeremy Garchow]

[John Heagy] “I suppose if one is loading/copying one card at a time the same name is okay, but not when you mount 5 P2 cards all coming up NO_NAME it invites errors.”

I can help you out on the appropriate P2 Forum, but your P2 cards don’t have to be named NO_NAME.

There is a multitude of metadata that is available to P2, you just have to use it. Again, I can help you in the other forum.

Jeremy

[John Heagy]

[Jeremy Garchow] “I can help you out on the appropriate P2 Forum, but your P2 cards don’t have to be named NO_NAME.”

Thanks Jeremy, I’ve spoken to Panasonic and am aware one can rename P2s via the Finder, and even format with the serial number using Panasonic’s P2Formatter app. Unfortunately if one formats a card in a camera… NO_NAME is the only result. Unless there’s a forum called “Breaking cameraman of needless rituals” I don’t think anyone can convince cameramen that formatting a P2 card on a Mac or PC trumps the camera. It’s hard enough just getting them to label the darn things much less whipping out a laptop to format a card each time.

The whole FAT32 NO_NAME thing needs to die, so I’m hoping Aja kills it on the KiPro Mini!

John Heagy

[Jeremy Garchow]

[John Heagy] “nless there’s a forum called “Breaking cameraman of needless rituals” I don’t think anyone can convince cameramen that formatting a P2 card on a Mac or PC trumps the camera…The whole FAT32 NO_NAME thing needs to die”

Hmm, Ok. At least you know it’s possible. The P2 format mitigates a myriad of challenges and is unbelievably well thought out. Though some people see it as ‘stupid’, and Panasonic is traditionally a PC company and this is the AJA forum sooooo….

[John Heagy] “so I’m hoping Aja kills it on the KiPro Mini!”

AJA on the other hand likes the MacOS (while supporting PCs) but CF cards will be formatted HFS+ (Mac OS Extended) and if they follow the method of the KiPro, they will be named the same reel number as when the drive was formatted in the Ki. I would imagine since there’s two slots in the mini, some sort of logical n+1 system woudl occur when formatting multiple cards, but we will wait and see.

Jeremy

[Fred Jodry]

John, if the cards are already formatted nicely but with bum identical file-names then just rename them on a side computer in batches before you give them to your cameraman. If they`re formatted badly such as formatted in the annoying slowing uselessly security enriched NTFS format then format them in a type that`s good to use like HPS+?, FAT32, HPFS? and with your pet file-names pencilled on their label. To reuse them you use the other side of the pencil. When using videotape I found I had no problem seeing Black Sharpee pen ink written on black tape. Likewise with 3-1/2 inch floppies which probably have plastic cases like your cards, I don`t know, pencil might write onto and erase from the plasic OK if needed. I`m not trying to bully Garchow and gang out of the topic though. It looks like there`s plenty of good advice. (I just hope that A.J.A. makes increased production and hopefully 4:4:4 (:4)).
John, my e-mail is, educationalbroadcasting@hotmail.com, same as used in the personal sales topic. Fred