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Claude Lyneis
June 8, 2016 at 12:07 amMoore’s law ground to a halt several years ago so the increases to CPU speed are must slower. Of course the industry has some tricks, but doubling processor speed every 18 to 24 months has gone down the drain. I am thinking maybe going to 4k will be a reason to retire my mid 11 27 inch, but I am not sure 4 k is worth the trouble yet.
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Andrew Kimery
June 8, 2016 at 12:11 am[Oliver Peters] “Then the following year after some AI-learning: “Hey dummy – clean it up yourself!””
Me: “See how you like life without your battery charger…”
Siri Roomba: “You wouldn’t dare!”
Me: “Just watch me.”
Siri-Washer and Dryer: “If you want clean undies you better put Siri-Roomba’s charger back on the floor”
Me: “What?”
Siri-Fridge: “It would be a shame if all this food went bad…”
Me: “Stay out of this Siri-Fridge. I’m so gonna kick you all off the WiFi if you keep this up.”
iPhone: “I’ll just make a local WiFi hot spot.”
Me: “Son of a…!”And the ‘connected house’ revolt begins…
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Darren Roark
June 8, 2016 at 12:22 am[Andrew Kimery] “I don’t think people will be willing to pay what it would cost to buy a customer made graphics card for a such a low-volume machine like the nMP. “
If I got significantly more performance out of mine I would buy two.
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Charlie Austin
June 8, 2016 at 12:36 am[Andrew Kimery] “And the ‘connected house’ revolt begins…
“I believe this is appropriate here… 🙂 internetofs*it on twitter
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Andrew Kimery
June 8, 2016 at 2:06 am[Charlie Austin] “I believe this is appropriate here… 🙂 internetofs*it on twitter”
LOL, perfect!
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Andrew Kimery
June 8, 2016 at 2:51 am[Darren Roark] “If I got significantly more performance out of mine I would buy two.”
Out of curiosity, what kind of price/performance ratio are you thinking about? For example, if the replacement cost for a pair of new GPUS was, say, $4000 what kind of performance increase for GPU-centric tasks would you be okay with? 20%? 50%?
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Darren Roark
June 8, 2016 at 3:19 am[Andrew Kimery] “if the replacement cost for a pair of new GPUS was, say, $4000 what kind of performance increase for GPU-centric tasks would you be okay with? 20%? 50%?”
That would be well into stay happy with what I have or new computer territory.
If the base model of the Mac Pro is $3K and the D700s only add another $1K to the price, it’s hard to say what percent of the Mac Pro price the the base D300s are, my guess is it’s under $1K.
If the pair of ‘future equivalent’ of the D700s are on the very high side cost $2K for the pair and I could transcode Red footage to ProRes proxy 40% faster than I can now which is realtime without a Red Rocket I would consider it.
The Rocket is still nearly as much as a top end new(ish) Mac Pro. I’d rather just get another Mac Pro at that point.
The 7950s are really great cards for the 2012> Mac Pros for $500 each and do pretty well against the D700s and beat the D500s for many FCP X tasks so who can really tell. It seems that the GPUs are finally aren’t too badly overpriced.
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Walter Soyka
June 8, 2016 at 11:24 am[Steve Connor] “Cheese grater Mac Pro’s are not “relics””
Depends on your frame of reference. But if cgMP are relics, then the nMP is a relic, too.
https://arstechnica.com/apple/2016/06/back-to-the-mac-modernizing-apples-aging-computer-lineup/
Walter Soyka
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Walter Soyka
June 8, 2016 at 11:29 am[Darren Roark] “The 2013 Mac Pro so far a bigger SSD can be swapped as well as faster CPU and RAM. Yes, no internal HD slots or other internal expansion, they didn’t leave room, but the bare system itself can be upgraded, they just don’t offer parts. (Yep, big problem) Ultimately my hope is they stick with this slot for the next round and sell updated GPUs as an upgrade, or at least make cards specifically for the 2013. The SSD, RAM, and CPU can be swapped out, they just don’t sell the GPUs yet. (big problem)”
We have four nMPs. Is there a specific big SSD replacement you recommend? We’ve maxed RAM and put in 1TB Samsung SSDs in most of them. We tried the 2TB Aura upgrade, but we had some reliability issues, and it appears to the system as a RAID and cannot be Boot Camped.
Walter Soyka
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Walter Soyka
June 8, 2016 at 2:26 pm[Andrew Kimery] “Out of curiosity, what kind of price/performance ratio are you thinking about? For example, if the replacement cost for a pair of new GPUS was, say, $4000 what kind of performance increase for GPU-centric tasks would you be okay with? 20%? 50%?”
Not to belabor the point, but looking at a GTX 1080 with 9 teraflops versus a dual-D700 combined for 7 teraflops, $600 for a single card would buy you a 29% increase in compute power, and $1200 for two would buy you a 157% increase in compute power. (As some benchmarks come out, maybe we can relate those more specifically to image processing tasks.)
Out of curiousity, what kinds of GPU-related tasks are you guys generally getting bogged down with?
Walter Soyka
Designer & Mad Scientist at Keen Live [link]
Motion Graphics, Widescreen Events, Presentation Design, and Consulting
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