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New bundle – RT.X2 with Adobe Premiere Pro CS3 Upgrade
Posted by Gary Bettan on August 3, 2007 at 4:49 pmMatrox and Adobe have put together a great bundle for existing Premiere owners to move up to the world
George Socka replied 18 years, 9 months ago 6 Members · 16 Replies -
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Steven L. gotz
August 3, 2007 at 7:46 pmGary,
So you are saying that Matrox finally caught up, and that it actually works? Have you tested it, or had someone who tested it review it for you?
Steven
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Gary Bettan
August 3, 2007 at 8:11 pmWe’ve started playing with the RT.X2 ver 3 drivers and Premiere Pro CS3. So far the results have been very good.
One thing to keep in mind is that Matrox cards can be finicky if not put in the right computer. We only recommend using approved motherboards and following the Matrox system recommendations.
Do you have any specific issues / problems you want us to test/duplicate on our system?
Gary
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Harm Millaard
August 3, 2007 at 10:41 pmTo sum it up, Matrox offers a $ 1.200 board plus the upgrade from PP2 to CS3 @ $ 299 as a deal for only $ 1.500?? Given the track record of Matrox and their lack of support for existing boards, as stated in your message (they stopped supporting the RT.X100) this does not look attractive. IMO AJA and BlackMagic have better options with less compatibility issues, better stability and a more attractive price.
I still have a RT.X100 board somewhere and it is perfect…. as a doorstopper. I never could get Matrox to work decently and as you said yourself it only works on approved systems (well not even then) so you face an additional investment in a new system and know, that when CS4 comes out they will stop support for the RT.X2, which will be superseded by the soon to be announced RT.X3.
It seems like a $ 1.200 investment down the drain.
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Gary Bettan
August 4, 2007 at 12:26 amWhen the RTX.100 first shipped it came with Premeire 6.5. Matrox was the first and best at supporting Premier Pro and then Premiere Pro 2.
Canopus DV Storm and Pinnacle hardware where never able to fully support Premiere Pro.
While BlackMagic and Aja make very good products, they are nothing more then I/O for Premiere. The RTX2 and Axio LE offer additional performance beyond that. If these additional features are beneficial to your workflow, then it’s a great investment. If the software alone and I/O is getting the job done for you then look no further then some additional RAM or CPU speed for more performance.
Gary
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Eric Jurgenson
August 4, 2007 at 3:22 amRegardless of what some people say about Matrox, their current boards are by a large margin the best solution for editing with Adobe Production Studio. The features they bring to the table – additional format support, native file format multistream realtime playback, realtime effects package (that works in After Effects as well), accelerated rendering and export, superior breakout box design, in a highly stable system is simply unmatched by any other PC/MAC solution. But you have to build a certified system for it to be guaranteed to work. The reason some people give Matrox a bad rap is that they built their own systems without doing the proper research into what will and what won’t work. The information is on the Matrox website, and Matrox dealers are mandated to stick with certified systems. If you insist on building your own wacky system, (as many people seem to), you will get burned.
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Steven L. gotz
August 4, 2007 at 3:55 amI can accept that the Matrox requires a specific system to operate in. I just wanted to know if Gary had faith in the results. He does make a living selling the things, but I believe he would have said that he didn’t personally test it, or someone he trusted.
If he is happy with it, then that’s great. I do wonder if some of the original problems, like voiceover recording, have been fixed.
I am not, however, in need of a device that does what the Matrox does. Not unless they supply me one, and a system to put in in. Then I would be happy to beta test it for them. Since that is unlikely, I will stick to what has worked for me since the beginning.
Steven
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Harm Millaard
August 4, 2007 at 8:58 amI already have a DVStorm for the backdoor and a Raptor for the kitchen.
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Eric Jurgenson
August 4, 2007 at 3:54 pmI would suspect that few people with an up-to-date system would be in a position to upgrade to a Matrox card, since their system would be unlikely to meet the Matrox spec.
However, anyone building a new system should seriously consider Matrox. What’s not to like about multi-stream real time native HD file playback, a real-time effects package, and accelerated rendering and export?
Frankly, anyone working in HD, especially HDV and XDCAM HD (long GOP MPEG) should build their system around the RTX2 or Axio LE card. It does so much more than a Xena card, but it’s not that much more money.
I tried Cineform, but I was unhappy with transcoded files. They ate up a lot of disk space, lowered the quality somewhat, and complicated file management. I also had problems with long captures.
I do wish Matrox (or the VideoGuys) would give you a system to check out. As a forum leader, your opinion is highly respected, and you have helped many people here, including myself. Keep up the good work.
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Steven L. gotz
August 4, 2007 at 10:52 pmI like Cineform as it has gottem me through for the last few years. They made it possible to edit HDV even during Beta trials.
Having seen the difference between native HDV editing and Cineform, I can’t see where you would say that any quality was reduced. I really don’t think I would ever trust the RTX.2 to be supported past a single Premiere Pro release. The Axio stuff that I have seen is excellent, however.
I recently won a AJA XENA LHe and as soon as my new graphics card comes in (stupid backorder) I will be using that with my Cineform Prospect HD to work in 10 bit. It should be interesting.
As I said before, the only reason I posted to this thread was to make sure that Gary was willing to risk his reputaton on this one, and since he seems to be, I figure it is safe to try it.
Steven
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