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  • Steve Connor

    October 31, 2018 at 4:01 pm

    I don’t want to distract people from the endless discussion about what the forum should be called but this looks interesting. BMD have released another eGPU.

    https://www.blackmagicdesign.com/products/blackmagicegpu/

    I wonder how well it works with the new MacBook Air?

    https://appleinsider.com/articles/18/10/30/hands-on-with-the-new-2018-macbook-air

  • Bob Zelin

    October 31, 2018 at 8:03 pm

    you can get the Sonnet eGFX with the Vega 64 for the same money. So why go with the Vega 56 ?

    https://www.sonnetstore.com/collections/egpu-expansion-systems/products/egfx-breakaway-box-650-bundle-vega64-frontier-edition

    Bob Zelin

    Bob Zelin
    Rescue 1, Inc.
    [email protected]

  • Michael Hancock

    October 31, 2018 at 8:21 pm

    Plus, you can swap out the card in the Sonnet unit. You can’t swap the card in the Blackmagic unit.

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    Michael Hancock
    Editor

  • Bob Zelin

    November 1, 2018 at 1:10 pm

    you bring up the MOST important point, Michael.
    You purchase an iMac Pro and it can come with either a Vega 56 or Vega 64.
    But we are in the video and electronics industry – and what happens – everything becomes obsolete very quickly.
    And is the case with the AMD Vega 64. New AMD card? Sure – the WX9100 – and will there be an even faster one very soon – THERE SURE WILL ! So with the Sonnet Box (or Akitio Node) – you simply open the box, swap out your card, and you have the new latest and greatest.

    THIS very fact is my #1 concern about the pending “new Mac Pro”. Will Apple let us mere mortals open up the new Mac Pro and stick anything we want into it – without having to go to an “Apple Genius Bar” to do it – and without having to get only “Apple flashed hardware” where nothing else will work ?

    Of course – I can counter my own argument here. The “fan boys” will come back and say “well – if you simply got Apple Care, and something when wrong, Apple would fix this for you for free, and when a NEW model comes out with a better graphics card, Apple will have a trade in incentive program”. I know I will never win that battle.

    Bob Zelin

    Bob Zelin
    Rescue 1, Inc.
    [email protected]

  • Steve Connor

    November 1, 2018 at 2:03 pm

    [Bob Zelin] ” The “fan boys” will come back and say “well – if y”

    Bob, would you mind NOT calling people “fan boys” it’s that sort of comment that keeps people off this forum

  • Bouke Vahl

    November 1, 2018 at 2:30 pm

    [Steve Connor] “it’s that sort of comment that keeps people off this forum”

    Well, it’s that sort of comments that keeps (some) people ON this forum.
    Bob gives away free advice that normally should cost people a lot of money if he was hired as a consultant.
    (You still hire him anyways if you are stupid like me and want to have your setup working, even if he lives at the other side at the world.)
    In return he asks for nothing more than a place to vent his ideas, frustrations and adoration of hardware. And he’s right most of the time. (I disagree on hardware getting obsolete that fast, but that’s another discussion.)
    I think that is a fair deal.
    (To be honest, his tone is way less aggressive than it used to be, probably due to moderation here, but it has never bothered me, the opposite being more true.)

    Bouke
    http://www.videotoolshed.com

  • Bob Zelin

    November 1, 2018 at 4:53 pm

    Hi Steve –
    I would like to address your comment. I will try to be as civil as possible.
    I do not like Apple’s new philosophy of “Apple only – you don’t need anything else” – be it from a hardware purchase or labor purchase (service, support, etc.).

    I have been using Apple products since the early days of AVID. I installed THIRD PARTY Digital Voodoo 64 AV cards in a Mac computer long before Blackmagic and AJA ever existed. And when the THIRD PARTY AJA I/O Box came out that was for use with Mac computers, that changed everything. All of a sudden, the Mac was a powerhouse for professional editing. And of course, AJA, Matrox, Blackmagic, MOTU and others took off, and created an industry.
    All of a sudden, linear was totally out, and Mac based edit systems like AVID and FCP took over everything. And it was great. And it was all Apple based.

    And other companies emerged – Other World Computing, Sonnet, Promise, Cal Digit, and countless others – all basing their product line on Apple products. And it was great.

    And then something happened. Apple decided that they didn’t like all this third party hardware. They wanted to keep all the money for themselves. They did like not third party repairs, or third party expansion. Everything became closed products in a very short period of time. Soon, you could not upgrade anything. And you could not repair anything. And soon (10.13.3) – Apple didn’t even want third party products that would plug into thunderbolt ports to work, making it very difficult to install drivers for third party products (without going into recovery mode to disable System Integrity Protection). And now – most recently – Apple wants their “partner companies” like Blackmagic to sell things like their eGPU boxes directly thru the Apple store, and not thru the free market, like Amazon, B&H Photo, Span, Newegg, and value added resellers.

    WELL – I don’t like this. And I think that people who embrace the ENTIRE video industry, and the DIVERSITY of wonderful companies that have existed since the beginning of time in the video industry, want to keep this diversity. And when they see a threat to that diversity – and see a central company trying to create a monopoly, that if you want to exist using Apple products – you will hand over your money directly to them, and not be allowed to go anywhere else. Well – I don’t like this. And that’s where my “bad attitude” comes from. I don’t like the fact that companies like Western Digital and Seagate have become the ONLY place to go if you want storage. I don’t like the fact that companies like Spectrum and AT&T are buying up all the competition so there is no other place to go. I don’t like monopolies – I like diversity. That’s what our industry has always been (audio, video, graphics, production, post production, etc.).

    Some people (I won’t use the term) don’t have a problem with this. I should be allowed to disagree with them, without being “shut down”.

    Bob Zelin

    Bob Zelin
    Rescue 1, Inc.
    [email protected]

  • Steve Connor

    November 1, 2018 at 4:58 pm

    [Bob Zelin] “Some people (I won’t use the term) don’t have a problem with this. I should be allowed to disagree with them, without being “shut down”. “

    Oh good grief Bob, I only asked you not to use the name NOT the argument! Have whatever opinion you want, just don’t be insulting about it!

  • Winston A. Cely

    November 1, 2018 at 7:39 pm

    All the courses at our school that use Macs are on a 3-year rotation, which means we get the best we can afford usually very close to maxed out iMacs every three years. As an instructor, I love this!

    But isn’t this a common practice in some high-end facilities? Upgrading hardware and computers on some sort of x-year schedule? I seem to remember reading on this forum that some people do this. I guess my point is that if you have a schedule, do you really need the upgrade on any specific internal components option?

    Winston A. Cely
    Editor/Owner | Della St. Media, LLC

    17″ MacBook Pro | 2.3 GHz Intel Core i7
    4 GB RAM | Final Cut Studio 3 | FCPX | Motion 5 | Compressor 4

    “If you can talk brilliantly enough about a subject, you can create the consoling illusion it has been mastered.” – Stanley Kubrick

  • Michael Hancock

    November 1, 2018 at 8:13 pm

    [Winston A. Cely] “if you have a schedule, do you really need the upgrade on any specific internal components option?”

    If you can upgrade individual components your total hardware replacement schedule gets longer, so each machine makes more money over the course of its life.

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    Michael Hancock
    Editor

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