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  • New 1Tb drives… 3Tb limit?

    Posted by Decloux on January 19, 2007 at 7:34 pm

    Hitachi is unveiling two new 1Tb drives,
    including the CinemaStar 7K1000, which is supposed to be
    optimized for video – supposed to be available 1stQuarter
    2007, retail list for $399.
    https://www.hardwarecentral.com/hardwarecentral/news/article.php/3652376

    Sounds beautiful.
    So – I’m about to buy a 2.66 MacPro, with a 500Gb starter disc, and I wonder:
    Would I be able to eventually jam 3 of those 1Tb drives into available bays?
    (Apple says the MP will hold 3Tb, if we install 4-750’s, but
    they don’t appear to say whether the *controller* or OS limitation is 3Tb

    And then there’s the promise of solid-state storage on the horizon.
    Won’t those flash-style components be able to blow the motorized gadgets out
    of the water, speed-wise?

    I want one of those flashy things!

    BTW – this forum is a fantastic resource – Thanx!
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    K: No.

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    Arnie Schlissel replied 19 years, 3 months ago 5 Members · 7 Replies
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  • Jeremy Garchow

    January 19, 2007 at 7:57 pm

    The 3TB ‘limit’ is probably due to the biggest drives at the time of the writing of that copy were 750GB. The 1TB drives were just announced. I bet they will work just fine.

    As far as solid state, it’s new and emerging (in big storage quantities) which means we wait and see.

    Jeremy

  • Ben Insler

    January 19, 2007 at 8:04 pm

    [decloux] “but
    they don’t appear to say whether the *controller* or OS limitation is 3Tb”

    I don’t think there’s a limit – as long as the drives are manufactured you should be able to plug them in, thus expanding the internal space to 4TB. If they made 5TB drives, you should be able to have 20TB of internal space.

    [decloux] “Won’t those flash-style components be able to blow the motorized gadgets out
    of the water, speed-wise?”

    Hopefully, but have you ever tried to work off of a flash drive right now. They’re fast enough for copying data quickly, but not nearly as fast as HDDs and not fast enough to work off of. Flash media’s max data transfer rate will have to develop a bit more before we have solid state drives that are affordable and fast enough for real media work. Look at the P2 cards. They’re fast enough for video, they’re really expensive, and they’re not that big. Right now an 8GB P2 card costs just over $1000. I’m not ready to pay $62,000 for a 500GB Solid State hard drive. We’ll have spinning platters for a bit longer…

    -Ben

  • Jeremy Garchow

    January 19, 2007 at 8:10 pm

    [Ben Insler] “I’m not ready to pay $62,000 for a 500GB Solid State hard drive.”

    You’re not? Man, where are your priorities?

    Also, don’t forget that the P2 cards are actually solid state raid sets. An 8 Gig P2 card has four 2GB flash cards in it. In all seriousness, solid state will be cool, but it’s years away. And seriously by that time, ‘drives’ will be vapor state storing bits on microscopic electrons that circle around your head. When you are ready to edit, you dream the sequence, and the electrons assemble themselves in the right order, fully rendered and everything.

    Jeremy

  • Debe

    January 19, 2007 at 8:18 pm

    [JeremyG] “And seriously by that time, ‘drives’ will be vapor state storing bits on microscopic electrons that circle around your head. When you are ready to edit, you dream the sequence, and the electrons assemble themselves in the right order, fully rendered and everything.”

    Wow, that’s almost creepy…..

    …yet oddly intriguing!!

    debe

  • Decloux

    January 19, 2007 at 8:21 pm

    Sandisk claims that their newest flash drive
    (SanDisk SSD UATA 5000 — 32Gb)
    is pretty fast*:

    o Host transfer rate: 100MB/s
    o Internal transfer read rate: 62MB/s
    o Internal transfer write rate: 36MB/s
    o Average access time: 0.11msec

    Also MTBF’s estimated at 2million hours
    (roughly double what the best motordrives claim)

    I would bet that we’re going to see
    serious competition within 2 years
    (esp when sandisk’s competitors get serious).

    *
    https://www.sandisk.com/Assets/File/pdf/oem/SanDisk_SSD_UATA_5000_1.8_DS_Rev.0.3-Preliminary.pdf

  • Jeremy Garchow

    January 19, 2007 at 9:28 pm

    Yeah, 32 GBs and writing @ 32MBs a second? That’s a step backwards. It’ll be years before we see anything that’s usable in video land.

    Jeremy

  • Arnie Schlissel

    January 20, 2007 at 5:07 am

    [decloux]
    o Host transfer rate: 100MB/s
    o Internal transfer read rate: 62MB/s
    o Internal transfer write rate: 36MB/s
    o Average access time: 0.11msec”

    That’s not very fast. Take a look at the specs on any ATA or SATA hard drive.

    Arnie
    Now in post: Peristroika, a film by Slava Tsukerman
    https://www.arniepix.com/blog

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