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  • Nesting techniques?

    Posted by Mark Arenz on May 9, 2005 at 5:44 pm

    On the system I used previously, nesting was a big deal. So, I’ve grown used to nesting (or grouping) dang near everything. In FCP, I’ve noticed that it handles nesting quite differently than I’m used to, and I’m curious whether anyone has found a solution:

    I like to nest my comps (green screen clip, bg, overlays, etc) and it works fine until I want to make even a minor timing change to the nest itself. If I want to make it longer (let’s say I want to – gasp – dissolve into it) trimming the length internally can offset all my audio or cause other kinds of weirdness that aren’t detectable until your undo buffer has run out.

    It would be great to be able to trim a nest on the outside or inside – to be able to see the start/end markers for how the nest is being used by the parent sequence inside the nest itself.

    I’d also love to be able to un-nest clips but it’s not that big a deal since you can always copy-paste.

    Mark Arenz replied 21 years ago 3 Members · 4 Replies
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  • Todd Beabout

    May 9, 2005 at 6:15 pm

    There is probaly a better way than I will describe, but this is what I do in your situation:

    I usually move the nested sequence up to an un-used track and lock the other tracks before “stepping-in” to the nest to lengthen the clips within it. Another alternative would be to move the nest to the end of your sequence before trimming it so that it won’t affect any of your other edits.

    It would be great if FCP was intuitive enough to allow you to trim beyond where your clips end within the nest if there is enough media there, but I deal basically the same thing when using Avid’s “collapse” feature and trying to trim beyond my intitial edit.

    Hope this helps. Maybe someone else knows how to do this without a workaround.

    -Todd Beabout
    Vazda Studios

  • Mark Arenz

    May 9, 2005 at 7:26 pm

    In Jaleo (what I used to use) it assumed that anything beyond the clip’s edges was a still. That rocked.

    You could also do all sorts of nifty things to groups without much trouble. Dang I miss that thing.

  • Les Kaye

    May 9, 2005 at 7:44 pm

    Is Jaleo still being sold/developed?

  • Mark Arenz

    May 9, 2005 at 8:22 pm

    Mistika is the new iteration. From what I understand it’s basically Jaleo 3.5 with a sexy new interface. Still, it runs on an SGI with next to no Quicktime support. It’s an island unto itself, unfortunately. If it weren’t, I’d gladly be running it right now.

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