Nesting issues: how do we fix what we’ve done wrong?

[Steve Cohen]

There may be a better way, but what I would suggest is to turn on the timecode overlay in the canvas and that will show you the time code of where your playhead is.

Then double click on the nest to go into it and enter the timecode in the Current Timecode (hitting Tab will make that area active) field in the upper left corner of the timeline and hit enter it will take yo to that time code on the nested timeline the you can match frame from there.

Steve Cohen
Editor
O2 Media Inc.

[Dan Riley]

I’m not in front of my FCP workstation, but if double click on the nest,
the nested sequence should come up, then highlight the v track you want to
match to, go to the edit menu, match frame, source file. This doesn’t work?
I’ll check into it tomorrow to see what I find out.

Why did you nest a sequence just to make subclips?
I can’t think of a reason for doing this extra step, so I’m curious.

The reason I would not have done it the way you did was, by putting
all those clips on one timeline, you now have new timecode for each clip, so
if you output the sequence for transcribing, the timecode won’t be
the same as the clip you are transcribing. If on the other hand,
you DID lay down all those clips on one timeline, then dragged the
timecode reader filter on to each clip, it would then make a window
of the original timecode which you could then output for your
transcription person. This would work, but not if you nest.

All of our shows have interviews and testimonials. We have everything
transcribed. The way I’m doing it now is, exporting a quicktime reference
of the clip, then dropping it into compressor and encoding h.264 and uploading
WITHOUT doing a TC window, BECAUSE with Quicktime 7.1.6 or higher,
your timecode is now shown in the duration window, Mac and Windows
version of Quicktime. This save the window burning step.

Dan

[Nick Meyers]

here is how to De-Nest:

the trick is you open the nest from the timeline into the viewer.
from there, you can make a subclip.
a new nested seq appears in the browser TRIMMED TO JUST THE SECTION USED.
you then Apple-drag that back to the timeline.

this is the ONLY way i know how to do this.
and here’s a real gotcha:
the new sub-nest only folows the duration of the picture,
so if you have split edits,you have to do picture in one pass, then sound in another.
(for your project, Kurt, if you have loots of audio in there, too : that’s another thing you need to tidy up.
export it all as one simple QTMovie, audio only and re-import)

here is how you would do a long project – PICTURE ONLY!

make a copy of the sequence,’
delete all the audio
make a new bin in the browser, open it in it;s own tab,(option double click on it)
put the copied sequence in it
add some asterisks to it so it’s name sits at the top.

open the first clip into the viewer
Apple U to make a sequence subclip or “sub-nest”
the new trimmed sequence subclip appears in the browser in the new bin.

Apple 1 to go back to the viewer.
down arrow to take you to the next clip,
Apple U again.

each new sub-nest gets labelled “Sequence Name – subclip” then Sequence Name – subclip1″ etc.
they’re sequentially numbered, so they sort in the original order

don’t do it for the whole timeline.
just do twenty or so for starters.
(heck, do three for starters, then build up to twenty or so. take it further if you feel you can
NB: you’d have to stop a series when you come to a gap in the timeline)

the trick to apple dragging a group:
select,
drag from browser,
THEN hold Apple

drop them on a track above the nested versions.
the duration’s should tell you if you’ve got them lined up or not.
double check that close up before you do the next group

then, i’d probably triple check before handing it over:

either by toggling visibility,
or possibly simpler:
re-sizing each track to a left/right box situation.

cheers,
nick

[Nick Meyers]

oh, and the trick to editing from selects sequences loaded in the viewer:

instead of plain old F9 and F10 for insert and overwrite, which will edit a NESTED SEQUENCE to the timeline
APPLE F9 and F10 will edit across the sequence CONTENTS.

cheers,
nick

[Martin Baker]

Absolutely and if you do this a lot, you might want to remap your keyboard layout.

Martin
Digital Heaven, London UK
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[Davednm]

To Steve C, Danrnw, NickM, Martin Baker, et al:

Thank you all so much for the helpful information. I’ve now got a rhythm going, as follows:

1) highlight a clip in my “selects” timeline
2) set IN/OUT
3) double-click to open the subclip
4) open that in the Viewer
5) sub-clip it
6) Command-drag the newly created subclip to a) the selects timeline, to get the source in there; and b) to the (already open thanks to step 3) interview sub-clip, to avoid future repeats of the problem
7) repeat

This seems to resolve the issue – please let me know if I’m creating any *new* problems by this methodology. Thanks again – you guys have really helped us out. (Hopefully, I’ll be able to do the same in the future.)

Cheers
Dave