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  • Nesting in Premiere CS4

    Posted by Sikter Hajvan on May 7, 2010 at 8:01 pm

    I am making a music video and there are several sequences in it .
    ( Intro, verse1, bridge, chorus, solo …)
    I have one main sequence where all my above mentioned are nested.
    I nest sequences by dragging them into my finale sequence.
    Each time I nest one of them Premiere CS4 creates a new NESTED Seq.
    So far so good ( I thought so but…)
    Then I realized that I have to render it three times to preview my project.
    I have to render my subsequence, the nested sequence and finale sequence too.

    What am I missing? Should Premiere really behave like that?
    ( I always remove audio before nesting any subsequences because I do have very same audio in my finale sequence)
    sikter

    Sikter Hajvan replied 15 years, 12 months ago 2 Members · 4 Replies
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  • Alex Udell

    May 11, 2010 at 8:43 am

    Are you saying that just to view the final sequence you have render it 3 times?

    or are you saying that to see and work in a nest you have to render that too?

    I would think that nest renders should propagate upwards (be seen as a single stream by the final seq)

    BUT if you render the final seq, that won’t necessary propagate downwards to the nested sequences.
    (as PPro is generating a final singlefile that is attached to the main sequence).

    PPro (or FCP as I know for that matter) doesn’t have a smart render system in that it will look at the clips used in the main sequence and then attach renders to all the subordinate timelines.

    Does that make sense?

    Alex

  • Sikter Hajvan

    May 11, 2010 at 9:23 am

    Let’s say I nested few sequence to my main sequence and I rendered it.
    Everything is green and I can preview my finale project and make sure everything is ready for finale export.
    Then I decide to edit one of my subsequences.
    I open it edit and as always I render it to see my result on subsequence level.
    Then I open my main sequence intending to export entire project.
    Then I realize that part of the time line is red and I render it again. (I was hoping to get yellow one)
    Just to be sure everything will export fine I decided to render Nested Sequence too.
    So obviously it is not how things are supposed to be but I don’t know what I’m doing wrong.
    -I guess I could render the main sequence only because I am going to export only that one.

    This is my very first AVCHD project.
    My files are 1920 x 1080 and my project settings AVCHD 1080p25.
    I did not export my project yet. I guess it will take all night (or longer)
    I did export couple downscaled copies and it went very well.

  • Alex Udell

    May 11, 2010 at 3:58 pm

    The necessity of rendering in a nest is because you want to see realtime playback while working in the nest to make sure an effect you’ve built is correct.

    While I agree that rendered nests should appear as a true single stream on the main timeline (in other words, the main timeline should default to seeing the render of the nest as opposed to ignoring what’s already been done, and only seeing the live layers…not sure why they don’t), in your case it is only functionally necessary to render the main timeline.

    that help?

    Alex

  • Sikter Hajvan

    May 11, 2010 at 10:11 pm

    Thank you, Alex!
    That helped.
    sikter

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