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  • Need some help with Multiclip

    Posted by David Bertman on May 12, 2008 at 11:53 pm

    Hi All.

    I have a scene that was shot to music playback. They recorded it with 2 cameras simultaneously. Only 1 camera was getting an audio feed, though. The other camera is completely silent. I originally found a sync point and was able to make a multiclip, I told the audio to always come from the A side even when I was using the B video. It worked.

    They did the same thing 4 times (8 takes total), Of those 4 have audio and 4 are silent. There’s obviously is no common sync point among all the clips.

    I was able to make 4 separate multiclips though. But I want all 8 takes to be in 1 large multiclip. I tried setting an in point on the 4 separate multiclips and then telling FCP to make a new multiclip from those 4 multiclip sources. It seemed to understand what I want as I can see all 8 video tracks simultaneously in the viewer, but it doesn’t honor the in points I have (so all the takes are way out of sync with each other). I figured maybe it was going back to the original master takes and using those in points.

    I decided to manually do what I wanted FCP to do, and I would find 1 downbeat on each multiclip that I know is the same (like the first drum hit of the first chorus) and mark an in point on all 4 multiclips at the same point. I could that find frame back to the 8 original clips and add an inpoint on them. Finally, I would make a supermulticlip from all the 8 original master clips.

    It hasn’t been working. I have the multiclip in the viewer, But. when I select the angle and choose view>matchframe>multiclip angle it doesn’t go to that frame. In fact it’s not even close. I’m not sure how it is deciding where to go on the master clip, Shouldn’t a matchframe>multiclip angle load the original source frame clip?

    So, the 2 questions I have are: 1) How can I make a sync multiclip from multiclip sources?
    and 2) How do I match frame a multiclip to it’s original master clip?

    Thanks much!

    David

    Don Greening replied 18 years ago 2 Members · 1 Reply
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  • Don Greening

    May 13, 2008 at 6:39 am

    I’m not going to try and figure out what you’re doing wrong as far as multiclip setup and editing is concerned but I will tell you how I do it and it works quite well for me.

    We generally shoot these types of events with 3 cameras and since tape based cameras need to have their tapes changed every hour or so we always make sure that at least 2 of them are running when the third one is changing tapes.

    So……

    In the FCP sequence I drag the media from all the cameras into their own dedicated video and audio tracks and sync them all using a common audio hit or a camera flash, whatever you have available. Each time one of the cameras changes a tape it’s another sync job with the other two cameras in the FCP timeline. Once everything is synched then go back to the beginning of the sequence and match frame each camera one at a time. Each time you do a match frame the master clip for that particular camera comes up in the viewer. Mark your in point in the viewer and do this for all the cameras. Once you have all the in points Cmd-select those master clips in the browser to highlight them all. Then go to (I think it’s the View menu?) and choose: make multiclip.

    All this time while you’re doing the match frame for the cameras the playhead shouldn’t have moved at all in the timeline. Create a new track for video and 2 new audio tracks and drag the new multiclip from the browser (change the track destination first) into the canvas and choose Overwrite. Now you have a perfectly synched multiclip on top of the other camera tracks. Mute the multiclip audio and in multiclip preferences set it up so that each time you change angles the audio changes angles as well.

    The other advantage of doing it this way is that you also have the audio tracks from all 3 cameras available. Edit your multiclip until you get to the next camera break (tape change) and then repeat the match frame workflow and create the next multiclip. And so on until your edit is complete.

    Hope this helps.

    – Don

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