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Need Help with Chroma Keying & Flash
Posted by Suzy Shaw on July 23, 2007 at 11:44 pmI shot and edited some video for a client. Taped on Beta SP, blue screen. I used FCP’s Chroma Key & Spill Suppressor filters to create an alpha channel. I reviewed the video in the canvas window, looked at the alpha channel and turned on checkerboard to make sure it was clean. The final video was exported as a QT Animation file so it would keep the alpha channel.
My client is saying that when they convert the file to flash that the key is jaggy, “hard”.
Does anyone have a suggestion?
Suzy
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SOBO ProductionsJohn Fishback replied 18 years, 9 months ago 8 Members · 8 Replies -
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Shane Ross
July 23, 2007 at 11:52 pmDV footage? That will be steppy and jaggy…nature of that beast.
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John Pale
July 23, 2007 at 11:54 pmyou should probably composite the image over whatever background you need to before converting it to Flash, as Flash is heavily compressed.
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Walter Biscardi
July 23, 2007 at 11:55 pm[Suzy Shaw] ”
My client is saying that when they convert the file to flash that the key is jaggy, “hard”.Does anyone have a suggestion?”
Yeah this will be true if they are trying to do the composite and render out to Flash. You should do the full composite and let them render to Flash after you’re done.
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Rafael Amador
July 24, 2007 at 2:04 amJust capture your BetaCam footage as 8/10b uncompress. You will get a much better key.
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Suzy Shaw
July 24, 2007 at 3:00 pmThanks everyone for your input. I did shoot on Beta and capture uncompressed, so I think the deal is that I need to convince my client to let me do the compositing and not them.
Cheers,
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Nate
July 24, 2007 at 3:56 pmI just read where Sorenson Squeeze has a new codec plugin for Flash alpha. You might want to check it out.. Compression Suite plus the On2 VP6 Pro codec.https://www.sorensonmedia.com/pages/?pageID=95
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Mike Weber
July 24, 2007 at 4:52 pmI agree, and in fact I strangely found this to be true even with footage shot on DVcam. (In my case, captured 8 bit uncompressed via AJA IoLA box).
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John Fishback
July 25, 2007 at 8:28 pmYour client could be causing the issues by their encoding parameter choices. Have you checked your exported file in AfterFX (or Motion) over some background to double-check the key? If it’s clean there, too, the client’s causing it. Flash programmers try to limit bandwidth by only keying the subject over a background inside Flash. By not including the bkg in the video the data rate needs are much less. If they’re not using the On2 VP6 codec they should.
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