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  • Need Clarification on AVCHD render quality

    Posted by Bryce Douglass on November 18, 2016 at 1:04 pm

    I just upgraded my iMac to 16GB of ram and am now able to edit AVCHD natively in premiere pro CC. My iMac is an i7 quad core with 1TB fusion drive.

    If I add any effects to my timeline that has AVCHD footage will the quality decrease every time I render the timeline or only on export? I keep reading that every time I render an effect it will reduce the quality unless transcoded to prores. The issue I have with pro res is the file size is larger and I don’t get any quality increase because my camera only allows a maximum of 8bit color depth and the mb per second is lower than prores. I’d rather edit natively.

    Thanks

    Bryce

    Bryce Douglass replied 9 years, 5 months ago 7 Members · 15 Replies
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  • Tero Ahlfors

    November 18, 2016 at 1:07 pm

    When you render previews you are always replacing the old render with a new one. Generation loss will not come into play because you’re not re-rendering the rendered preview..

  • Bryce Douglass

    November 18, 2016 at 1:23 pm

    But let’s say I render a clip then add a new effect and render again. Won’t that be a generation loss or am I confused.

    Bryce

  • Tero Ahlfors

    November 18, 2016 at 2:08 pm

    [Bryce Douglass] “But let’s say I render a clip then add a new effect and render again. Won’t that be a generation loss or am I confused.”

    If you actually export a clip out of the program as a new clip and bring it back in and then put more stuff on it then it will start suffering from generation loss.

  • Bryce Douglass

    November 18, 2016 at 2:14 pm

    I’m not talking about exporting. I’m talking about rendering. The yellow bar or red bar rendering into a green bar.

    Bryce

  • Jeff Pulera

    November 18, 2016 at 2:36 pm

    Hi Bryce,

    I responded to your post on another forum, but did not directly address the root of your question apparently.

    If you render a red portion of timeline to green, then make any edits that cause that segment to go red again, you are back to square one – each time you render red to green is like the first time, it always renders directly from the source clip to preview file format. It does not use the previous preview render file, that gets completely replaced.

    Please see this Adobe post for additional info on colors – https://blogs.adobe.com/creativecloud/red-yellow-and-green-render-bars/

    Thanks

    Jeff Pulera
    Safe Harbor Computers

  • Bryce Douglass

    November 18, 2016 at 2:38 pm

    I thought that was the case. I was confused why I got different reply above from someone else’s.

    Bryce

  • Jeff Pulera

    November 18, 2016 at 3:25 pm

    Bryce,

    I should add that Tero’s replies are totally correct, but maybe were not interpreted properly when you read them.

    Thanks

    Jeff

  • Bryce Douglass

    November 18, 2016 at 4:31 pm

    But when I render a yellow bar to green I don’t see any quality difference. The rendered previews are in prores HQ. do I need to transcode to pro res or can I just use native avchd and call it good?

    Bryce

  • Chris Borjis

    November 18, 2016 at 10:46 pm

    you don’t need to transcode.

    I do commercial production and been exclusively on premiere since CS 5.5

    I have not transcoded a single piece of footage since switching to premiere and one of our sony cameras
    records AVCHD.

  • Bryce Douglass

    November 18, 2016 at 11:29 pm

    What about color correcting? Can I color correct in avchd? I read that the colors can get washed out unless you render and replace with something else.

    Bryce

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