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Need assistance with Vegas effects
Posted by Shingirai Kaserera on December 23, 2013 at 1:49 amI have just finished cutting a music video and I am not sure what to do next, there is footage from 2 cameras, 5d and 60d canons so if you more experienced heads could give me a heads up on what I need to do to make it competitive without using any expensive plugins I would be grateful, I also would like to know how to get that final accomplished look where everything looks expensive and those glint glamourous lights you see on music videos nowadays
A vimeo link to my current project as it is after rendering is here https://vimeo.com/82517614
Thanks a lot for your help
RegardsA desperate newbie…ish
John Rofrano replied 12 years, 8 months ago 6 Members · 6 Replies -
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Stephen Mann
December 23, 2013 at 3:49 amYou’re really vague about what “look” you are looking for. Browse the NewBlue FX and see if any of those do what you want.
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Steve Rhoden
December 23, 2013 at 11:07 amI understand what you are trying to say with the glint and pop
that you want to achieve, But that’s not how it works, No 1
answer here is gonna fully help you, it is more in-depth than
that, it is a combination of cutting and editing the right shots
at the right pace, with the right transitions, the right Color
Grading, the right overlays etc, etc,… It takes practice and it
takes time.Steve Rhoden
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Roger Bansemer
December 23, 2013 at 12:07 pmI looked at your video and it looks good to me without a lot of “special effects”. Since it is quite dark I would suggest you use the Sony “curves” plugin to boost the highs and maybe use the “Color corrector secondary” to boost the color a bit.
For a touch of the special effect try the Sony “light ray” filter.Roger Bansemer – PaintingAndTravel.com
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Shingirai Kaserera
December 23, 2013 at 12:21 pmthanks for responses
well first
something evenly graded such as this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=olFj-xAdQLEdo i apply effects per event or per track because each take is colored differently and im messing around with color match with varying degrees of success, actually im not even sure i know what im trying to do [to that i would appreciate if someone suggested a target i should be working towards and how to achieve it…i can then modify the instruction set to meet what i like but i guess i need a quick more concise understanding of color grading …i have been going through a ton of tutorials and they all never really enlighten me how to determine what color is going to be what colour before i even move any dial… or maybe im being thick lol)
then for certain shots
i would like the light and glint for example that appears in the shots of this video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SAFWA7qxC0E at around 1:42
is anyone able to say for example what the best way of distinguishing between a narrative story in the video and the performances that enhance and aid the enjoyment of the music (i was going to make one series of black and whites where the takes are following the story and leave the more swag performance shots in a type of color
sorry if i sound all over the place…i somehow am all over the place
i am downloading new blue free trials right now, i dont know if thety will leave a watermark but i hope the 14 day period is complete unlimited usage 🙂
is there an easier way of making the two different shot footage match as from john rofranos tutorial i dont have boris CC and color match in vegas keeps turning unpredictable results
…how do the histograms i see in other tutorials appear and what is the best way of understanding how the graphs report the state of color in my work, should i apply it to a master bus (where is it ?) or to each track
i am more comfortable with daw such as logic and cubase on mac but video is not my foray so i am sorry if i sound helpless
oh and merry xmas everyone
maybe to summarise…i would appreciate it if someone looked at the video in question and said right son, i think your next step is to grade and from what you have you need x… y… z… or i dont know what are the post production requirements for a music video, some folks i have shown the footage reckon i should pat myself in the back for a job well done, i know this not to be true but they arent concerned with the subtle detail involved and yet i am just without knowledge
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Graham Bernard
December 23, 2013 at 12:33 pmOk….
Listen to the song’s narrative – the actual story line and the action as it unwinds. It’s full of existential realism mixed with mid 20th century Nihilism. I think the World is right for video that reflects this and de-glamourises the sub culture.
Apart from that I have no idea.
Grazie
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John Rofrano
December 23, 2013 at 1:41 pm[Graham Bernard] “Listen to the song’s narrative – the actual story line and the action as it unwinds”
+1 As Graham said, it’s all about story telling. Do you need special FX to tell the story? then add them. If you don’t, then leave them out.
Another bit of advice… I would have your camera operators concentrate on shooting better video. There are a lot of out of focus shots and I only watched the first 2 minutes because it was driving me crazy. I couldn’t watch any more. If you’re going to use cameras with shallow depth of field, you need pull focus. Having someone go out of focus because they moved their head back is unacceptable. It’s totally unnatural. Also, if you’re going to shoot 24p you need to learn to pan a lot slower. There was a choppiness in the video that was unsettling. Like I said, I couldn’t watch more than 1/4 of that footage and I don’t think grading and FX are going to fix that.
I’m not trying to put you down or discourage you… I’m trying to make you better. Your camera operators need to master their cameras and shooting with them before they take on another project like this. It’s very brave of you to put unfinished footage out there. Hopefully you will take this criticism constructively.
~jr
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