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  • need advice on shooting drips of all kinds…pls help!!

    Posted by Pixel8ted on November 11, 2005 at 5:59 am

    Hi Guys,

    I need to shoot some ink dripping off walls,and also splattering on floor kind of effect …which is very popular nowadays…I thought shooting on black paper with white paint, would be better for keying..but then there is the problem of video noise…what would be the ideal format to minimise avoid /noise?

    would digibeta be good enough..?

    Thanks.

    Pixel8ted replied 20 years, 6 months ago 2 Members · 4 Replies
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  • Chris Smith

    November 11, 2005 at 3:12 pm

    first of all your video noise is coming from your cam and not the tape format. Obviously the better camera you use…well…the better. But you are just trying to get a matte working. So I would do black ink on white. Because your white ink would have to be pretty thick not to let black show through too easily. Besides you can just invert the image in AE very easily. So use plenty of light. When there is a lot of video noise in a consumer cam it’s because there isn’t enough light and it’s gaining up which adds noise. Take some white foamcore out in the sun and set it up in front of your cam on a tripod. Then put black ink in a dropper and go to town. Don’t forget other fun trendy ink stuff, like dropping the ink into water. against a white background.

    Once you have all your ink footage, bring it into AE and add a hue/sat and pull all the saturation out so it’s truly B&W. Then use levels to crush in the blacks and whites a little so that your levels hits true video black and true video white. Then add a channels>invert so that you have white ink over black.

    Now if it were me I would render these out to a lossless QT to keep for other projects.

    When you do use them, bring them into AE and use them as a luma track matte on other layers. So on a red solid for example the red will look like red ink over a transparent BG.

    Chris Smith
    https://www.sugarfilmproduction.com

  • Pixel8ted

    November 11, 2005 at 4:21 pm

    Hi Chris,

    Thanks for your advice, I think I will stick to black ink on white paper?

    So, using proper lighting,a good camera-say a digibeta camera,would eliminate noise to the extent that pulling a luma matte in ae will not show grains in the footage.

    I suppose grain removal tools will further eliminate any possible noise…?

  • Chris Smith

    November 11, 2005 at 9:24 pm

    I think a consumer DV cam is good enough if you give it good flat light. That’s why I think putting it in the sun will give you tons of light. Then you should have almost no noise. Ideally you want a cam that shoots progressive because interlacing (60i) is not artistic IMHO.

    Chris Smith
    https://www.sugarfilmproduction.com

  • Pixel8ted

    November 12, 2005 at 4:54 am

    nt

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