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  • need advice: more RAM or new processor?

    Posted by Jeffrey on January 17, 2006 at 5:19 am

    I currently am running 512meg of RAM and use a Pentium 4 processor. I want to add another Gig of Ram and a dual core processor. Most of my editing in AE is with still pictures from professional photographers. I use the camera/3d effects quite a bit. Of course upgrading both would be best, but I can only do one right now, so which do you think would give me the best results? (my main issue is rendering lengths and buffer underrun errors).

    thanks,
    Jeff

    Jeffrey replied 20 years, 4 months ago 5 Members · 10 Replies
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  • Vince Becquiot

    January 17, 2006 at 5:42 am

    For render time you’ ll want speed and processing power. For you that means a better cpu, dual core probably the way to go since you already have a p4. The bus speed is also going to play a major role here, as well as ram speed.

    Increasing ram at this point will only allow you to render more into preview, but not much faster.

    Cheers,

    Vince

  • Mike Smith

    January 17, 2006 at 10:34 am

    Increasing your RAM to 2 Gig should be cheap and quite effective in giving you a speed boost. It’s always tricky to know when to add extra hardware, and when to upgrade a whole system. If your P4 is reasonably recent then it should be quite quick anyway – weren’t the very first ones 1.4 or 1.5 GHz? My vote would go the RAM …

  • Barend Onneweer

    January 17, 2006 at 11:50 am

    On another note: AE 7.0 has a lot more support for OpenGL accelleration. Depending on your card you might also want to look into that. I find AE 7 to feel a lot faster when working with 3D layers in OpenGL.

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  • Jeffrey

    January 17, 2006 at 12:48 pm

    which do you think would be more responsible in eliminating image buffer underrun errors?

  • Mike Smith

    January 17, 2006 at 2:17 pm

    Hi J.

    I’ve never seen a buffer underrun error message from AE. It echoes back to the early days of trying to write to CDROM – Nothing to do with AE, unless you’re trying to burn to disc without rendering – which I doubt! What message exactly do you get, and what are you doing at the time?

    Buffer underrun implies data is not being made available fast enough to your host process – let’s assume video playback system; though since AE does not try to play back video in real time if the data’s not available it’s a surprising problem.

    By and large, for system speed, you’d likely want to keep your hard disc(s) defragmented, keep a good amount of spare hard disc space, and if at all possible keep your video and AE project files and temporary files on a drive separate from the system drive …

    This sounds to me like an error that you may need to fix, and not one that additional hardware will resolve.

  • Jeffrey

    January 18, 2006 at 4:37 am

    OOPS! my mistake…the error message was actually something like “not enough memory to create image buffer..”

    I found several similar threads regarding this issue, so I assumed it may have been a common problem, especially considering the low amount of RAM that I have. It happens when I try to render out section that has a camera panning and zooming over a ‘wall’ of pictures I have created. The pre comp size is 7000×7000, using around 100 pics from a professional photographer which was then brought into an NTSC D1 comp size where the camera was then used….

    I will try again later and write out the exact error message if you want, but I am done working for tonight!lol.

    PS
    here is one of the threads of someone who had a similar problem, if your’e interested:

    https://forums.creativecow.net/cgi-bin/new_read_post.cgi?forumid=2&postid=729110&archive=T

  • Mike Smith

    January 18, 2006 at 8:35 am

    Sounds like you need all the RAM your system can use – which will be 2 gig. Even so, that’s a big pre-comp – are you zoomed is so close that you need that much for your final output ..?

    Good luck with it!

  • Jeffrey

    January 18, 2006 at 1:32 pm

    Yeah, I zoom in on one picture and then pull out wide so you can see a bunch of pics and then zoom in on another. It’s a pretty cool effect and I’ve done it before without any issues when I did using digital pics from a consumer camera, I think it has something to do with using pics from a professional camera. But even in the precomp I tried making a still frame of the whole thing and it still gave me the same error message, but I think I have found a few workarounds, but who the heck wants to use workarounds?lol

  • Joe Feng

    January 19, 2006 at 3:41 pm

    what was the workaround you used?
    I’m having sort of the same issue…

  • Jeffrey

    January 20, 2006 at 5:01 am

    One work around was to simply restart the computer…maybe it clears the cache or something…do a few advanced searches and you will find a few different threads on this issue. I think another one was to make some changes in the secret prefrences, but that didn’t do me any good.

    Good luck!

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