Need a solution: 60i video look in 24p timeline

[John Heagy]

[Dave Holzman] “Use Re:Visions Field kit to Deinterlace to 60p, then use Twixtor to go from 60p to 24p, and edit from there in the 24p timeline. Is this right?”

Yes that’s correct. You could use AE to do the 60p to 24p, just be sure the frame blending setting is set to fine. That will enable Optical Flow. If you want the “cheap” video look to include a bit of aliasing you could skip the FieldsKit step and use AE for everything.

Another option would be to use a 24p capable consumer HD camcorder. Just over expose it… downconvert to SD… then upconvert to HD. Oh and up the shutter speed so you minimize motion blur.

[Tom Brooks]

You know, these are interesting times. I suppose a wide-screen movie shot at 240fps would yield what might be called “hyperreality.” On one hand, it would put more information on the screen. On the other, it may not look at all like the world we perceive with our own two eyes. Another example of this is the shallow depth of field that is so valued in our business at this time. I never look at a scene and think, “Gee, her face is nice and sharp, but the trees behind her are very blurry.” And yet, something is telling me that the shallow depth of field looks natural and the same scene with sharpness everywhere looks unnatural or hyperreal.

I’m sure there’s a lot of research on related topic already out there. Let’s say the first big 240fps film comes out in the next few years. Will it be the marketing campaign that convinces us it looks “real,” or will it be our own visual senses?

[Tom Brooks]

BTW, I came across this post which answered a lot of my questions: https://forums.creativecow.net/thread/267/656#662

Go Tim!

[Gary Adcock]

Dave, showscan is recorded at 72fps not 60.

gary adcock
Studio37
HD & Film Consultation
Post and Production Workflows for the Digitally Inclined
Chicago, IL

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[Tom Brooks]

I will Google that. Although our vision is limited, the combination of human vision with human thought takes us much further. The ability to use 240fps to bring fast action down to the level we can see at any given moment might make it more than a waste of film. Maybe an alternate angle shot at high speed, accessed through a gestural touch pad or other yet-to-be-invented interface?

[John Heagy]

Just to be clear…

I’m certainly not advocating 240 or 120 as an acquisition framerate. Just using it as an example of how marketing can drive technology and public perception.

For the record… I am all for moving away from 24p, when applicable, and resisting the “knee jerk” 24p default that seems so prevalent.

While were on the prediction kick…. The worldwide benefits of 24p will also be reduced by the proliferation of online viewership. Eventually even set top boxes will simply download only the shows one wants, eliminating the need for broadcast standards.

I also predict the Sun will die in 4.8 bilion years

John Heagy