Neat video

[Steve Rhoden]

No Allan, you not doing anything wrong, thats normal
for neat video. What you should do is dont apply it on the
entire video, only the spots where their is excessive noise.

Steve Rhoden
(Cow Leader)
Film Maker
Filmex Creative Media.
1-876-832-4956
https://filmex-creative-media.blogspot.com/

[Drake Hatfield]

Its a very helpful plugin but Steve is right. If you apply it to your entire film it will DEFINITELY take ages to render, even on a great i7 rig. Neat Video is one of the more intensive plugins out there.

[Allan Boes]

Thanks 🙂
My prblem is that the noise is at the entire clip(it’s an old VHS recording) and it seem like neat video is working pretty great to remove a graet deal of the noise.
But are there any other plugins that can do the same,but dosent drag my computer to it’s knees 🙂 and do’sent cost to much?

Allan Boes!!!
Working in Vegas pro 10 and Adobe CS5

[Theo Van laar]

For Vegas, you could also use the denoiser from RED 5, which works much easier then the neat video plug-in, but is quite expensive.

But since you also own Adobe CS5 (suite?), why not have a look at RED GIANTs Denoiser, which costs only US$99 and is by far the best denoiser I have ever tried:
https://www.redgiantsoftware.com/products/all/magic-bullet-denoiser/

But you will need to have after effects in your adobe CS5 suite….

Theo

[Jim Greene]

You might want to try “Dynamic Noise Reduction” created by Mike Crash: https://www.mikecrash.com/index.php?name=Downloads&d_op=viewdownload&cid=13

-Jim.

[Allan Boes]

Hey Jim
Just downloaded it, but it dosent show in vegas, I am running 64 bit version, do you know if the plugin supports that or only 32 bit?

Allan Boes!!!
Working in Vegas pro 10 and Adobe CS5

[Jim Greene]

I don’t think there is one for 64bit, sorry. All my legacy plugins is why I’m staying at 32bit.

-Jim.

[Nigel O’neill]

Allan

You have to put up with the long render times if you want to use Neat Video. You can reduce the render times by tweaking/reducing some of the smoothing settings, but the trade-off is a little more noise gets back into your video.

I did have a 90 minute wedding reception in which I tried it, but I ended up not using Neat Video. Although the noise was very noticeable in blu-ray, once it got crunched down to DVD, the noise was not as noticeable. The client wanted DVD only, so I left it at that. I did find that the 5 o’clock shadow on men tended to be emphasised by Neat Video, making them look like Fred Flintstone in the old cartoons!

I have applied it to VHS tapes and the effect can cause an over smoothening to the video.

My system specs: Intel i7 970, 12GB RAM, ASUS P6T, Vegas Pro 10e (x32/x64), Windows 7 x64 Ultimate, Vegas Production Assistant 1.0, VASST Ultimate S Pro 4.1, Neat Video Pro 2.6

[Dave Haynie]

[Allan Boes] “My prblem is that the noise is at the entire clip(it’s an old VHS recording) and it seem like neat video is working pretty great to remove a graet deal of the noise.”

A good deal of VHS noise is random. You will probably find that, if you capture the same video a couple of times, and composite them together evenly, you may see a very nice noise reduction with absolutely no softening of the video. This will also take time, but only N x for the separate captures. I’d try this first with any noisy analog tape capture… use different VHS decks, too, if possible (assuming you have access to more than one good one).

[Allan Boes] “But are there any other plugins that can do the same,but dosent drag my computer to it’s knees 🙂 and do’sent cost to much?”

The noise reduction process is inherently CPU intensive, and Neat does a very nice job. I used it on a wedding I shot last year, the whole thing was in a dark nightclub. For that, I just pre-processed the whole thing, ran Neat on the AVC video, output to Cineform, edited from there… just did without that PC for a few days. Once processed, I had instant access to both processed and unprocessed video from both cameras — made editing much, much faster. And that’s where time is money.

The key is that you pretty much want to process with the noise reduction first, before you do any color grading or other editing, but you have a big bill to pay in CPU up-front if you do that.

As for cost, you kind of get what you pay for. I know there are a half dozen or so VirtualDub plug-ins that do noise reduction. I used one of these, ages ago, and it was certainly better than nothing. You might hunt these up, get VirtualDub (AVISynth and Wax also run VDub filters), and try it out. This can get involved, but if you have more time than money, it does extend your video tool box.

-Dave

[Allan Boes]

Great 🙂 thanks a lot.
But whem you say composite them together, what do you exactly mean? put them in overlay?? or what?

Allan Boes!!!
Working in Vegas pro 10 and Adobe photoshop CS5