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  • Nattress Film Effect to Compressor settings?

    Posted by Andrew Schuurmann on May 31, 2005 at 6:19 pm

    What should my Compressor settings be when I’m compressing a clip that I’ve applied a Film Effects filter to? Should I choose the “24p Material” option in Compressor, even though it’s not really 24p?
    My original sequence is Uncompressed 8bit, NTSC 29.97. I applied the G-Film Hell filter and put the settings at 24p, lower field, 2 field blending, WWSSW, no output smoothing, and smart deinterlace with a tolerance of 10.
    I’m using FCP 4.5 and the “old” version of Compressor.

    Andrew

    Graeme Nattress replied 20 years, 11 months ago 2 Members · 3 Replies
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  • Graeme Nattress

    May 31, 2005 at 7:48 pm

    An NTSC clip that has had Film Effects applied to it, although looking 24p, has 3:2 pulldown added into it to make it compatible with 29.97fps NTSC video. SO you must compress it, for DVD say, just like you’d compress any normal NTSC video. Similarly for web use etc.

    However, if you do want to use it on the web or DVD, you’re further ahead not doing the 24p effect in Film Effects, but with the Standards Converter instead, leaving you with 24p media which compresses better than video at 29.97fps anyway as it’s less frames per second.

    So tell me a bit more about what you’re planning to do with the video and then I can help more.

    Graeme

    http://www.nattress.com – Film Effects for FCP

  • Andrew Schuurmann

    May 31, 2005 at 8:00 pm

    Thanks for the quick response, Graeme — I really appreciate the fact that you’re so willing to answer questions about your awesome set of plugins.
    Anyway, I’m just planning to put this clip on a DVD to be shown thru a projector on a screen — nothing fancy.
    It sounds like what I should be doing is adding the film effect minus the pulldown (would that mean I set my “Film Frames per Second” to 30fps?), and then adding the pulldown in the Standards Convertor? If I do it this way, I would use the “24p Material” option in Compressor, correct?
    And just to re-confirm the answer to my original question, if I do choose to add the 24p effect in the Film Effects plugin, I should compress it as if it is normal 29.97 NTSC footage, correct?
    Thanks again!

    Andrew

  • Graeme Nattress

    May 31, 2005 at 8:35 pm

    If you’re using a workflow to deliver true 24p with both Film Effects and Standards Converter (this is how I tend to use the plugins myself) then there’s a switch in Film Effects that turns off ALL frame rate processing. Or you can use the RT versions which don’t do the 24p stuff either. Then the entire finished movie can be put into the converter, and out it comes at 23.98fps (24p) for you to make a web movie or 24p DVD. That’s how I make the web movies on my site, for instance.

    For your workflow, which used the 24p feature in Film Effects, the video is still 29.97fps NTSC – it just looks like 24p and needs to be treated as 29.97fps.

    The MPEG2 DVD presets in Compressor are fairly intelligent and will guess the right frame rate and size without you having to specify the frame rate though.

    Graeme

    http://www.nattress.com – Film Effects for FCP

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