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  • NAS HP MediaSmart EX495 and FCP editing?

    Posted by Rafael on March 20, 2010 at 1:49 am

    Surprisingly there is no topic about this question.
    I am planning to buy a HP MediaSmart EX495 within a Mac 10.6.2 environment and to do some editing in HDV format, so nothing fancy or uncompressed HD format.
    I was wondering if this is fast enough to be used over an Ethernet Giga 1000, or the usb?

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    Michael Gissing replied 16 years, 1 month ago 4 Members · 6 Replies
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  • Walter Biscardi

    March 20, 2010 at 3:27 am

    [Rafael Macho] “Surprisingly there is no topic about this question.
    I am planning to buy a HP MediaSmart EX495”

    Because you can’t run FCP on anything but a Mac. If you want to try and hack your way to FCP on Windows, you can, but we’re not here to help with that.

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  • Michael Gissing

    March 20, 2010 at 5:32 am

    [Rafael Macho] “Surprisingly there is no topic about this question.
    I am planning to buy a HP MediaSmart EX495”

    If you are talking about purely using this as a NAS unit then this very topic was discussed recently

    https://forums.creativecow.net/thread/8/1078182#1078182

    Bob Zelin who frequents this forum has setup Intel Mac server systems using gigabit ethernet but I doubt if you could do this reliably with a windows server or conventional stand alone NAS units.

  • Walter Biscardi

    March 20, 2010 at 1:04 pm

    [Michael Gissing] “Bob Zelin who frequents this forum has setup Intel Mac server systems using gigabit ethernet but I doubt if you could do this reliably with a windows server or conventional stand alone NAS units.”

    I would highly doubt this as well. There are so many proven solutions out there that work, why try to make a round peg fit into a square hole?

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  • Arnie Schlissel

    March 20, 2010 at 3:00 pm

    You are in for a world of pain. What you are planning to do is very much like trying to edit video over a fast internet connection.

    An NAS is not designed for constant sustained throughput like a real storage attached network (SAN) is. An NAS will break the signal down into little packets using the same TCP/IP protocol as the internet and other standard ethernet networks. A SAN uses larger packets with more efficient protocols with lower overhead.

    IOW, the fastest NAS will tend to bog down even with fairly low bandwidth video.

    There are ethernet based SAN systems that are fairly economical, do a search here and in the SAN forum to find out about some of them.

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  • Walter Biscardi

    March 20, 2010 at 4:16 pm

    [Arnie Schlissel] “There are ethernet based SAN systems that are fairly economical, do a search here and in the SAN forum to find out about some of them.”

    They’re REALLY economical. I did an article on one of them and Small Tree also offers their own SAN.

    https://library.creativecow.net/articles/biscardi_walter/media_san.php

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  • Michael Gissing

    March 21, 2010 at 1:27 am

    For the record, I use NAS units to stream video and audio with my Fairlight audio systems. One NAS provides either DV or H264 codec files simultaneously to two Fairlights. The other NAS provides the audio to the two Fairlights but with 10,000 rpm drives to handles the fast seek times of lots of separate audio files. We have tested the audio NAS to handle simultaneous record & playback (ie write/read) of 96 audio tracks and it does it easily.

    Fragmented video clips will be another challenges and anything about DV or HDV will likely fail to be reliable enough. In other words, forget it as a reliable video editing network option, but they are very useful for network backups.

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