My take on Final Cut 7 and Lion.

[David Roth weiss]

Jan,

Honestly, you’re barking up a bad tree here if your goal is actually editing. If experimenting and determining failure rates caused by sheer laziness are your goals, that’s another thing entirely, but that’s not why we’re here.

You may occasionally “get away with” lazy system maintenance and software installation, but not often. And, if your time and our time here mean anything to you at all, get on with doing things the “right” way and quite wasting bandwidth doing things the lazy man’s way.

David Roth Weiss
Director/Editor/Colorist
David Weiss Productions, Inc.
Los Angeles
https://www.drwfilms.com

Don’t miss my new tutorial: Prepare for a seamless transition to FCP X and OS X Lion
https://library.creativecow.net/weiss_roth_david/FCP-10-MAC-Lion/1

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[Jan Bliddal]

Hi David yes I know and I will do it the proper way when I know that all my applications are doing Lion Properly. Until then Final Cut 7 on Lion is just a playground. I have a perfectly working Final Cut 7 on my 10.6 harddrive, and I am working that one now. I just remember how time consuming it was to do it the prober way when installing Final Cut studio 3 on a freshly formated and installed 10.6 system. I am only waiting for BBedit 10 to become available in the App store. I will then format one of the discs and do a proper installation as soon as I find the time for it.

Let the machine work for you. Not you for the machine

[David Roth weiss]

I understand that excuse Jan, but honestly, it kind of reminds me of all the excuses I’ve read over the years from people shooting with mismatched cameras with different frame rates, who claim it saved them money. Every one of them saved a hundred in production, but then spent $1000 or $2000 or more in post trying to fix the mistake.

In post, doing things the right way from the get go is the only way to save in the end, and in your case it’s a savings of time.

Not trying to whip a dead horse, just letting you know that in years of doing this I have found this advice to be one of the few things that’s actually 100% repeatable and reliable.

Good luck…
David

David Roth Weiss
Director/Editor/Colorist
David Weiss Productions, Inc.
Los Angeles
https://www.drwfilms.com

Don’t miss my new tutorial: Prepare for a seamless transition to FCP X and OS X Lion
https://library.creativecow.net/weiss_roth_david/FCP-10-MAC-Lion/1

POST-PRODUCTION WITHOUT THE USUAL INSANITY ™

Creative COW contributing editor and a forum host of the Business & Marketing and Apple Final Cut Pro forums.

[Andrew Evans]

i agree about the laziness. i have a co-worker who refuses to edit in any format other than h.264 because he doesn’t want to transcode to prores.

Andrew Evans
Lake TV
iMac 2.5G Quad 8GB
FCS 3

[Michael Gissing]

Jan, what do you expect from Lion for a FCS3 edit system? Given that there will be no point upgrades beyond 7.0.3 and most of the Lion OS prowess is for 64bit software, I am puzzled why people who edit professionally and need to stay with FCS3 want to jump into an OS that seems to offer nothing but potential pain for a FCS3 system?

If you run other software fair enough. A dual boot system may better serve but I would leave FCS3 with SL at 10.6.7 and also have a clone just in case. If like me you need to run FCS3 for 6 months to a year then that is what I would advise.

[Jeremy Garchow]

[Andrew Evans] ” i have a co-worker who refuses to edit in any format other than h.264 because he doesn’t want to transcode to prores.”

Funny how laziness eventually turns in to more work.

Holy shit. Sorry. The proper words fail me.

[Jan Bliddal]

To clarify. My Main system is runing Final Cut studio 3 on 10.6.8 do to the latest security upgrades backed into that system. At it runs perfectly. I have do a few personal none deadline projects in Final Cut Pro on Leopard because it was possible and the multicam project was only to stress test the system. I was just asking to see if any one had had the time to Install Final Cut studio 3 on lion the slower but more secure way and if the had been able to do multicam editing in Final Cut Pro 7 when running Lion as their operating system. Me being layzy about installing Final Cut 7 the proper way is more about me wanting to try out Lion and less about me wanting to edit in Lion. I have only done so on small family projects and I would not do it on bigger projects in the first place. Sorry for the confusion and lack of clarification in the first post.

Let the machine work for you. Not you for the machine

[Nick Meyers]

MIchael: “I would leave FCS3 with SL at 10.6.7”

hi michael,
is there a reason not to go to 10.6.8?

thanks,
nick

[Michael Gissing]

Hi Nick,

The 10.6.8 updgrade was all about the apps store for FCP X. Since that upgrade there have been lots of posts here about things breaking in FCS3 like the VO tool and some people also had graphics card driver issues (from memory).

With reports of some weirdness and the fact that FCS3 is now legacy and any OS issues will not be fixed by point updates, I am advising people to avoid this point update to the OS as it provides nothing useful for a FCS3 setup and potential makes things screwy.

[Craig Alan]

Great. What’s the best way back to 10.6.7?

OSX 10.5.8; MacBookPro4,1 Intel Core 2 Duo 2.5 GHz MacPro4,1 2.66GHz 8 core 12gigs of ram. GPU: Nvidia Geoforce GT120 with Vram 512. OS X 10.6.x; Camcorders: Sony Z7U, Canon HV30/40, Sony vx2000/PD170; FCP 6 certified; write professionally for a variety of media; teach video production in L.A.