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my smart collections are not working!!
I spent hours yesterday logging interviews and creating smart collections (I believe that is what they are called) by assigning keywords to the selections. When I finished my day I dropped them all into a folder.
I just sat down and when I play back the keyword selections that I created the footage doesn’t at all match what I logged yesterday.
What’s the dealio!
Shane Trowbridge
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9 Replies
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My first guess is you somehow didn’t put your ins and outs correctly. Could this be the case?
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[Shane Trowbridge] “When I finished my day I dropped them all into a folder.”
Not sure what you mean by this. Can you explain the procedure you followed?
NT
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To give a little more detail. I marked all of my in and outs using the the standard I and O. And when I assigned keywords I could see that they were “attaching” themselves to the clips.
The keyword selections (smart collections I believe they are called) all showed up in the event library like they were supposed to (I made the mistake of not checking them for accuracy as I was creating them. I assumed they were correct)
When I was done logging the clips I had a LONG list of keyworded segments. To be organized, I created a new folder in the event library and named it “interview clips” I then drug the smart collections/keyworded segments into it. I then closed up shop and went home. When I came in the next day, all the smart collection clips were just a bunch of random clips.
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To give a little more detail. I marked all of my in and outs using the the standard I and O. And when I assigned keywords I could see that they were “attaching” themselves to the clips.
The keyword selections (smart collections I believe they are called) all showed up in the event library like they were supposed to (I made the mistake of not checking them for accuracy as I was creating them. I assumed they were correct)
When I was done logging the clips I had a LONG list of keyworded segments. To be organized, I created a new folder in the event library and named it “interview clips” I then drug the smart collections/keyworded segments into it. I then closed up shop and went home. When I came in the next day, all the smart collection clips were just a bunch of random clips.
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A clue to your problem could be:
‘When I finished my day I dropped them all into a folder’You can assign keywords in two different ways, by selecting a clip or part of a clip and then bringing up the Keyword Editor or by creating a Keyword Collection folder in the Event and dragging clips into it. It sounds like you’ve done both, which probably messed things up.
When you assign a keyword to a clip, it is automatically placed in the Keyword Collection. If there wasn’t a collection for that keyword to begin with, then it’s automatically created.
FYI… Smart Collections are created by setting rules for the clips that can go into them, not by assigning keywords.
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[Ian Bailey] “You can assign keywords in two different ways, by selecting a clip or part of a clip and then bringing up the Keyword Editor or by creating a Keyword Collection folder in the Event and dragging clips into it. It sounds like you’ve done both, which probably messed things up.”
Actually, that’s not what the OP said. He created a FOLDER, not another keyword collection. It’s perfectly fine to create a folder in the event, and then consolidate collections into that folder. There is something else going on with his project.
To the OP: How many master clips were affected? Was this just one long clip that you segmented with collections? What codec was the source footage? Do you have transcoding to ProRes on?
It sounds like FCPX got confused about the TC of the selections you created. Are the durations the same?
Andy
https://www.timesavertutorials.com
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That is correct, that is not what I was talking about. Here is what I did. It was a multicamera interview. Camera A was Panasonic P2 (DVCProHD I believe). Camera B was a little JVC that shoots native QT files (Mpeg 2). I basically took the entire interview and made a compound clip out of it for the purpose of going back and doing a “multicam” type edit. And yes it was set to ProRes.
It seems like everything is thrown off. I did a BUNCH of keywording so it’s hard to see if there is any consistency with the issue. I just know that it’s not at all the segments that I attacked the keyword to.Also, I’m not understanding the difference between keywording and smart collections.
Thanks for your help!
Shane
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[Shane Trowbridge] “I’m not understanding the difference between keywording and smart collections.”
A “keyword collection” is what you did. You take a clip or a range inside a clip, and manually assign a keyword to the selection either by typing in the keyword editor, or by drag and drop to an already existing collection.
A “smart collection” is when you use search criteria (meta-data) to automatically sort all of your footage and place in a collection. For example, if you wanted all your SD footage to be in one place, you can set up a smart collection to do that. Then if you bring in anymore SD footage, it will automatically be sorted into that collection.
Keyword collections are blue in color, smart collections are purple.
As for your other issue: It’s possible that FCPX was transcoding the P2 and Mpeg2 clips into ProRes (in the background) while you were sorting, and then because of a TC mix-up, shifted INs/OUTs when the transcode was complete. This might also be due to the fact that you had pro camera footage in a compound clip alongside what sounds like a consumer camera that doesn’t properly handle TC. These are all just guesses because I haven’t seen this issue before.
Andy
https://www.timesavertutorials.com
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Can two separate events share a keyword collection?
I have started a new event for material generated in 2012 for a project.
I now find that I have new keyword collections for this event.Can I produce a smart collection across the 2011 and 2012 events?
Also at Christmas I created an event on my internal drive and linked ( not copied) files to it from my external camera archive drive.
When I returned home I wanted to move this event to my external fast RAID for editing.
I wanted to keep the files linked at this stage for the first cut.
My preferences were set to link NOT move media, nor transcode.However when moving the event from within FCX all of the media was copied (and duplicated) to my RAID, the files were no longer linked!
The same happens if linked media goes offline, dragging the files back into FCX from the archive does not re-link the files but imports all of the media into the event folder.
Is media amazement really such a mess in FCX
Any one know how to
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