My Head is Going to Explode

[Presley Hunter]

I will be shooting in 1080p 60fps and using DNXHD 240 codec. Funny i read to just shoot 1080p raw. Being a newb I did the reasarch and felt violated. Okay these are 11/12 year old kids and the amount of cash to spend on a camera that shoots raw is not in the budget. I think I have a good starting point and my disk configuration will be:

850 evo 250gb os/apps
Nvme ssd 500gb media/cache/etc
850 evo 250gb exports
2 tb for offloading projects/backups/etc

And as soon as ram comes back down in price another 32gb

Thanks for all the help to everyone.

[Joseph Owens]

[Presley Hunter] “the season is 10 games plus tournaments I wanted to make sure I had enough speed and space. “

Here is where the rubber meets the road.

DnXHD @60fps generates around 1.25 GB per minute as opposed to around 100 or so MB for mp4. (About 10% plus or minus). That’s why I consider 250 GB drives to be a delivery asset, not for production.

One game, taking a wild guess, if its anything like televised sports, might be around -what- 2.5 hours, (150 minutes) per camera, so I’d be setting aside 300 GB for storage. One game. Even if you stepped back to mp4, still 30 GB as a rule-of-thumb estimate, and you’d be able to keep 8 games before one of those 250 GB was rendered functionally full.

Resolve is an evolved color grading application — it is being leveraged into being an editor, and it does have a very demanding hardware requirement. The notion of it being “free” is based on assuming that you are running it on a very substantial platform, which is not free or even cheap. It is not “beginner” software, and it does NOT like Long-GOP codecs like mp4 that require very substantial CPU processing to make the media available to the application. Operators continually report glitchy performance with highly-compressed media.

If you are a sports coach and not a professional editor, even a modest investment in a pay-editor like Sony Vegas, a trial/subscription to Adobe Premiere, even iMovie or dare I say it, Final Cut X — may save you a ton of grief and a learning curve that will appear to be straight up. If only for the choice in logistics you may have to make with respect to how much source media you will be dealing with. Frankly I work with a few Premiere / Media Composer editors who rear in fright at the Resolve interface. They don’t want to know about the COLOR page. All I have to say is “Color page” and it has the same effect as saying “Frau Blucher.”

You think your head hurts now….?

jPo, CSI

“I always pass on free advice — its never of any use to me” Oscar Wilde.

[Simon Ubsdell]

OK, Presley, I’m sure you’re feeling that Joseph is being mean here, but he really, really isn’t.

All of his advice there is absolutely spot on.

I would very much second his suggestion that you don’t go with Resolve for this.

Premiere or FCP X are a much more suitable choice that will make your life infinitely easier, not least because you can comfortably edit long GOP media natively.

We’re not trying to be unhelpful, but really Resolve isn’t the answer to your problems here.

Simon Ubsdell
tokyo productions
hawaiki

[Simon Ubsdell]

It’s called “democratisation of the tools of production”.

There are some zealots who think it’s a fantastic idea.

And then there’s the reality.

Simon Ubsdell
tokyo productions
hawaiki

[Presley Hunter]

OK, I did a few tutorials with Resolve and it didn’t seem too bad, but then again I am new so you can take that with a grain of salt. I will give the trial versions of Premiere and Vegas a shot also something called Hitfilm which is free for one of there versions. Subscription based Premiere is something that makes me cringe, but I guess its the sign of the times. Now as far as the kids game they last for about an hour and I don’t mind spending money on hard drive space. I am actually excited about learning, so the headache is worth it for now.

[Presley Hunter]

LOL… If that is being mean he hasn’t met my wife. I appreciate all of this information and because the kids will enjoy their own highlight and blooper video its worth the abuse.

[Marc Wielage]

[Simon Ubsdell] “It’s called “democratisation of the tools of production”.”
As we’ve seen over the past decade, one man’s democratization is another man’s destabilization.

I don’t mind lower-cost tools; the problem is when people assume they can also get by with low experience and low money for talent. And this problem has affected production, actors, cinematographers, editors, sound mixers, colorists, and VFX artists. There’s a point where producers need to have realistic expectations.

[Marc Wielage]

[Joseph Owens] “They don’t want to know about the COLOR page. All I have to say is “Color page” and it has the same effect as saying “Frau Blucher.””
Hump? What hump?

[Joseph Owens]

I’ve been arguing against this loose abuse of the word “democratization” since the first time I heard it applied to this kind of situation. The correct, accurate and precise word is “popularization.”

I did not vote for this mess, either with my dollars or endorsement of the notion of point-and-click media production. I was perfectly happy working in somebody else’s $1.2M suite on somebody else’s dime, collecting a salary. Although I am more perfectly happy when the cheques come in with my name on them. But this is the way of the world: Surf or Die.

Marc – One hump or two?

(Blucher)

jPo, CSI

“I always pass on free advice — its never of any use to me” Oscar Wilde.

[Simon Ubsdell]

[Joseph Owens] “I’ve been arguing against this loose abuse of the word “democratization” since the first time I heard it applied to this kind of situation.”

I think both you and Marc have me down as a champion of this.

I am not!

Simon Ubsdell
tokyo productions
hawaiki