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  • My audio misadventures

    Posted by Mark Morache on July 24, 2011 at 4:29 am

    Forgive the repost… my first attempt at screen capture went well, but youtube dropped the audio from the clip, so I recompressed and reposted.

    I am depressed and frazzled at wrestling with FCX all day. It feels like all of my creative energy has been spent babysitting a absolutely horrible child who wouldn’t do anything without kicking and screaming.

    If anyone sees a better way for me to do some of the things I’m trying, let me know. That bug sure bit me.

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    https://youtu.be/LCKfM83cXbI

    I just spent about 13 minutes doing what should have taken me less than a minute. There seems to be a definite bug that I discovered. You’ll see it about 8 minutes in. I attempted to slice a bit of audio out of the middle of a separated audio clip, and squeeze the two bits together to fill the hole. I ended up with an unexpected echo as the audio of one clip continued to play past the edit boundary.

    If you have the time to watch, you may find this interesting.

    In FCP7, there are many ways to get to your destination, and that’s what I like about it. In FCPX, there seems to be many roads that lead to dead ends, unexpected detours, secret passageways, and occasionally an ied that makes the program crash.

    I can write some of this wasted time off to a steep learning curve (ironic because they wanted to make a program that’s easier to use) but seriously.

    ———
    I’m calling it FCX. They took the “pro” out, so I will too.
    I’ll reconsider after the first upgrade.

    Mark Morache
    Avid/Xpri/FCP7/FCX
    Evening Magazine,Seattle, WA
    blogging at https://fcpx.wordpress.com

    Tal Rom replied 14 years, 9 months ago 5 Members · 6 Replies
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  • Alban Egger

    July 24, 2011 at 8:29 am

    Mark,
    it seems you are stumbling through a software you aren´t familiar with yet and compare it to the one you are used to. I guess you will fight with AVID or Premiere or, the arguably fastest editor out there, Edius, also initially.
    And you probably had the same issues when you started with FCP7 (or whatever version you started with).

    I can´t reproduce the echo-effect you experience. I used FCPX extensively for 4 weeks now and never had that problem. FCPX is responsive, quick, slick and efficient. Definitely a bug in your timeline there.

    I tried to do what you did in 13 minutes. The J-cut with clean-up of a stutter takes a few seconds, just like it would take me in FCP7. I like to have the camera-audio in the clip and can live with the need to detach audio to fix it. That´s a shortcut extra. But I see no other advantage in FCP7.

    You are right the un-sync-numbers are missing and there are clearly some betalevel issues still, but what you try to accomplish is not faster or slower in FCPX it is just a little different. But that´s my 2 cents.

  • Steve Connor

    July 24, 2011 at 1:15 pm

    I can’t reproduce your problem on my system either

    Steve Connor
    Adrenalin Television

    Have you tried “Search Posts”? Enlightenment may be there.

  • Nick Toth

    July 24, 2011 at 7:41 pm

    Can’t reproduce the echo problem.

    Note that when you break apart the clips the audio is still connected to the video so you shouldn’t lose sync unless you physically move one or the other clip out of sync yourself. Make sure you have “show connections” checked in the clip appearance window on the lower left of the timeline.

    Keep working with it and I think you’ll find more and more to like about it. That’s my experience anyway coming from an FCP user since 1.25.

    What I found to be very helpful was the Ripple Training program. Larry Jordan also has some good stuff as well as others. Nothing like free so take a look at this too: https://www.izzyvideo.com

    Good luck!

    NT

  • Tal Rom

    July 24, 2011 at 10:01 pm

    You shuold use “open in timeline” and set the channels levels there. in this option, you enter the “inside” of the clip and can edit the video and the audio and add filters.
    after you exit the “open in timeline” option, you see just one audio strip that represent two channels, you don’t loose sync and you can lower the levels when you need as you do for a stereo.

    Tal Rom

    PrePost
    Production & Post Workflow Solution

    Israel

  • Mark Morache

    July 25, 2011 at 3:55 pm

    I was wondering about that. How does that work?

    If I take a clip from the event browser and open in timeline, balance the two audio channels and go back to my main timeline, does that mean that every time I pull part of that clip down, the audio fixes I did will be there?

    I do that in FCP7 all the time.

    That would be helpful. Now if I could just get my audio automation back.

    Thx.

  • Tal Rom

    July 25, 2011 at 11:29 pm

    You can take a clip from the Event browser and fix all of it, or you can take a clip from the storyline and change just the selected part (the In and Out from the full clip)

    Tal Rom

    PrePost
    Production & Post Workflow Solution

    Israel

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