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  • Multiple Transitions for One Selection?

    Posted by John Bertram on November 6, 2005 at 8:36 pm

    This is the flip side to the threads on how to apply a transition to multiple edits simultaneously — and a search of the manual, this forum, and some Googling has yet to find an answer.

    I need to apply/combine two different video transitions to the same edit. Does anyone know of a workflow and/or workaround that could achieve this?

    Specifically, I want to create a transition which combines the Zoom transition from the 3D Simulation effects folder, with the Dither Dissolve from the Dissolve folder. The effect I want to achieve is to have the outgoing clip shrink away to reveal the incoming clip, and, at the same time (while that outgoing clip is shrinking away), to ALSO have it be dither dissolving into the new, incoming clip.

    So far the closest I can get is to put the incoming clip on a separate, overlapping video track and apply the dither dissolve to its head, while immediately below it (on V1), I apply the Zoom to the tail of the outgoing shot. But this doesn’t get the exact effect I want, since the dithering affects the full frame of the new incoming shot, whereas what I want is for the dither dissolve to only be happening within the ever-shrinking frame of the outgoing clip.

    Does that make sense? And if it does, am I S.O.L. — or just in for a whole lot more trouble than this effect is worth?

    John Bertram
    Toronto

    John Bertram
    Toronto, Canada

    John Bertram replied 20 years, 6 months ago 3 Members · 4 Replies
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  • Jerry Hofmann

    November 7, 2005 at 12:20 am

    Export a self contained QT movie of the two clips with the dissolve, then edit that file into the sequence as the outgoing shot ending at the beginning of the dissolve… then add the second shot in, and put the zoom in starting at that transition and for the duration of the dither.

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  • Bret Williams

    November 7, 2005 at 1:23 am

    Apply dither dissolve to outgoing clip. Nest it. Apply zoom transition to outgoing clip. Should work.

  • Bret Williams

    November 7, 2005 at 2:22 am

    A workaround. It appears that if you nest it doesn’t preserve the alpha, and dissolves to black.

    Instead, put the forst clip on v2 and apply the dither dissolve. Then, keyframe the zoom back using the motion tab. On V1, keyframe the zoom up using the motion tab.

  • John Bertram

    November 9, 2005 at 7:41 pm

    Jerry and Bret:

    Thanks for both of your suggestions.

    For this particular transition, I was able to get the effect I wanted with a version of Brett’s workflow which had already been suggested to me by another FCP veteran. SInce I just wanted the zoom back of the outgoing shot to reveal the already-in-place incoming shot, I only had to use the motion tab to create that zoom back — after first putting the outgoing shot onto V2, and making sure the two clips overlapped by the length of the transition I wanted (and applying the dither dissolve to that outgoing shot on V2).

    For other combined transition effects, however, the export/import route is one I’m sure I’ll be exploring.

    Thanks again,

    John Bertram,
    Toronto

    John Bertram
    Toronto, Canada

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