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Multiclip Projects
I’m editing a multicamera concert shot on 27 cameras, loaded at DV Pal. I’ve been happily editing away each song as seperate sequences but now it has come to joining them up as one complete sequence I cannot edit them into one timeline as I get an ‘ Out of Memory’ message or a crash. I also can’t copy them to another project for the same reason. I increased my RAM from 2.5Gb to 4Gb but it still refuses to work.
The project file is 397.6 Mb and takes ages to open up but once open works fine with no noticible lag opening song cuts into the timeline and switching cameras. To play the sequences I have to collapse the multiclips but considering the number of cameras and at DV quality this is to be expected. My work around at the moment is to make quicktimes of each song, import them into a new project and join them together there but I don’t have the flexibility to switch cameras and make changes without going back and cutting bits from the original project into my new project, which works but sometimes crashes FCP, meaning I have to save after every edit which is time consuming and is no way to work !
I was thinking for future projects that I could start a new project for each song cut to keep the project size down but I’m still worried that it will become a problem again joining them all up into one timeline. Also, any better ideas how I can get around this for my current project?
Has anyone had any experience of this? It would be really good to be able to speak to someone to find out whether there are file limitations on FCP projects or multiclip groups or some whether this is infact a problem with my G5 itself and not software related.
Any advice much appreciated.
Reg.Reg
2.7 Dual G5
FCP 5
Tiger 10.4.2
4Gb Ram Kingston
750Gb Graid SATA
500Gb Graid Firewire 800
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[Reg Wrench] “I’m editing a multicamera concert shot on 27 cameras”
I’d also wonder what kind and how many HDs you are using.
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I am using a G-raid firewire 800 for the 9 main cameras and have had the remaining 18 cameras (they were set up on a timeslice rig) delivered on two 75 gb lacie firewire drives and one 300Gb firewire drive. I have transferred some of the timeslice material to my G-raid SATA drive but didn’t have room for all it to go over. I’ve finished another job now so will be able to clear it off and get it all off the standard firewire drives and onto the SATA. Could they be causing the problem?
Reg
2.7 Dual G5
FCP 5
Tiger 10.4.2
4Gb Ram Kingston
750Gb Graid SATA
500Gb Graid Firewire 800
Kona LS -
Don’t know if that is causing the problem, but the huge project file size is probably part of the problem… If it were me I’d break down the big project file into smaller ones as you have suggested for the next set of projects. Just take the songs and put them in new project files… don’t know how many you have, but you probably can put more than one in a single project file. Then create a “master” sequence project file to marry them all into a single sequence if you have to have them that way. Idea here is to start working NOW with smaller project files. 300MB+ files are really huge and must be making demands on the system you probably want to avoid.
Jerry
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Reg,
We’ve dealt with alot of “huge” projects and have found that regardless of how much RAM you have installed, anything over 400 Mb is pushing it. It seems that multiclip projects have a tendency to “bloom” the project file size much more drastically than regular projects. You list your FCP version as “5”, but the latest version “5.03” has addressed this project “blooming” somewhat. So, first, make sure you’re running the absolute most current version.
I think your idea of a separate project for each song is probably the best. When you join them all together, that project should ONLY have the timeline and none of the associated media folders. This will keep the size down, but unfortunately, you’ll have to open and acess the individual projects if you need that material.
Mark
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Unfortunately I think the project size has reached it’s maximum already and it won’t allow me to copy songs into another project, my worry is that it’s not the project that’s too big but the song seqence itself because it’s referenced to multiclips. If this is the case then no matter what size the project, once you’ve got up to a certain number of cuts with multiclips you might never be able to copy the sequence. I’ll have to do some tests with a new project to find this out but it still leaves me with a problem on this one. My next plan is to try and copy the project and then delete some bins from the copy to make a smaller project, hopefully this will work! . . .
Reg
2.7 Dual G5
FCP 5
Tiger 10.4.2
4Gb Ram Kingston
750Gb Graid SATA
500Gb Graid Firewire 800
Kona LS -
Thanks Mark, yes I am running 5.03 so I’m going to try and whittle down a copy of my project and see if that works.
Reg
2.7 Dual G5
FCP 5
Tiger 10.4.2
4Gb Ram Kingston
750Gb Graid SATA
500Gb Graid Firewire 800
Kona LS
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