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Multicamera Clips
Posted by Accountneedsrealnameupdate on December 26, 2006 at 7:49 pmWe recently did a two camera shoot with a pair of Panasonic HVX200’s with Firestore FS100 drives. Both cameras ran continuously for about an hour but the FS100 broke the takes into 2 min chunks, (FAT32 limit in the firestore). All of the chunks come into Avid and reassemble as they should, but the takes are now sequences and not clips so Avid will not allow me to group them for multicamera editing. I have tried making subclips but it still does not let me group them.
Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.
(Avid Xpress Pro 5.6.2)
John Cuevas replied 19 years, 4 months ago 5 Members · 7 Replies -
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Joe Womble
December 26, 2006 at 9:52 pmRumpster,
You can just load the sequence into the source monitor (drag and drop), but I’m curious…how did you import the files into Avid so that they are sequences and not clips?
Regards,
Joe Womble
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Accountneedsrealnameupdate
December 26, 2006 at 11:20 pmThe drag and drop technique only seems to load one sequence into the source monitor at a time and does not allow multicamera editing, (unless I’m missing something). The problem is the 2 GB FAT 32 limit in the firestore that breaks continuous takes into 2:18 long chunks. I brought everything into Avid with the media tool, but instead of one long clip, I have multiple 2 min 18 sec long clips. All of the 2:18 clips go onto the timeline and play smoothly, but the problem is I want to use the multicamera editing feature which requires that the clips are grouped together, so although I have continuous A Camera and B camera sequences, I cannot group them. I could edit just camera A clip 1 and B clip 1, and so on, but it would be much better to have the complete takes available.
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Michael Phillips
December 26, 2006 at 11:36 pmTry consolidating the sequences then multigroup the master clips made as a result of the consolidation process… not guaranteeing anything, just thinking out loud.
Hi Joe – welcome to the cow.
Michael
anything 24fps
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Fred Williams
December 27, 2006 at 1:06 amHave you tried reading the tips regarding the workflow with Avid and the HVX200?
https://www.avid.com/exchange/forums/3/68285/ShowThread.aspx -
Michael Phillips
December 27, 2006 at 1:28 amIf you import the files directly to the MXF mediafile folder you will not be able to group them as there is no source MOB created. I prefer to read the P2 card directly from the MediaTool and then consolidate to the local drive. The consolidation process creates a SOURCE MOB during the process which will allow grouping for multicam.
In either case, the original question is from FireStore which this would not address.
Michael
anything 24fps
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Accountneedsrealnameupdate
December 27, 2006 at 2:03 amHi Michael,
Yes, that is correct. The files in question were read from the media tool, moved to a bin and consolidated to a media drive. The individual clips can be grouped and edited in multicam mode, but the problem is I have 30 clips each from the two cameras and the cameras were not started at the same time, so although it is easy to trim the beginning of one sequence to bring them into sync, the break points in the 2 minute chunks do not line up, (Cam A clip 3 overlaps with Cam B clips 3 and 4, if that makes sense), so going through and sequentially using multicam on two clips at a time would be a huge pita.
BTW I tried consolidating one of the sequences, but the ‘group clip’ function still gives an error message saying that “only master clips and subclips can be grouped”. Curiously, I have also tried using the ‘make subclip’ function and get the same error. Only the original master clips seem to work.
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John Cuevas
December 27, 2006 at 6:45 pmI had a timecode issue on a recent show. To fix it I took the offending clip(s) and put them in their own timeline. Then just did a video mixdown on the entire sequence. Instead of matching to timecode I just matched to ‘in points’.
Just mark down the timecode of the video, first frame, and it should be fairly easy to group them with the other tape.
Johnny Cuevas, Editor
http://www.ckandco.net
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