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  • Multicam has me locked out of my audio channels

    Posted by Mark Morache on March 3, 2012 at 8:55 pm

    I tried multicam for the first time, and it works great.

    However…

    I want to get into my clip and turn down one of the two audio channels.

    I can’t open the multiclip in timeline mode. I can’t finalize the muliticam clip so I can open the original clip.
    I can’t detatch the audio or break apart the clips.

    Hmmm… I’m wondering what the workflow is for this?

    It was very awkward and difficult to go back to the event browser and go into the original clip within the multiclip. I tried making an adjustment there. It seemed to change the clip in the timeline.

    Any thoughts on this? I’d be happy to finalize the multiclip, but that doesn’t seem to be an option in this software. Am I missing something?

    ———
    Don’t live your life in a secondary storyline.

    Mark Morache
    FCPX/FCP7/Xpri/Avid
    Evening Magazine,Seattle, WA
    https://fcpx.wordpress.com

    Mark Morache replied 14 years, 2 months ago 4 Members · 5 Replies
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  • Oliver Peters

    March 4, 2012 at 1:58 am

    [Mark Morache] “I can’t open the multiclip in timeline mode. I can’t finalize the muliticam clip so I can open the original clip.
    I can’t detatch the audio or break apart the clips.”

    Ha ha ha ha ha ha! WHAT do you think I’ve been complaining about?! Sorry – couldn’t resist. 😉

    Clearly the designers have no idea how people actually use multicam editing. Or at best they forgot that audio EDITING is more than 50% of good film/video editing. You have to attach the source audio as a separate connected clip and don’t trim for length until the multiclip edit is done. Make it pretty unusable. That’s one of the reasons Bunim-Murray found that FCP X was not headed in a direction that worked for their productions.

    – Oliver

    Oliver Peters Post Production Services, LLC
    Orlando, FL
    http://www.oliverpeters.com

  • Brian Kaempen

    March 4, 2012 at 6:42 pm

    You and me both Mark and Oliver. I just posted this over at the Apple forums:

    Hello all,

    I’ve been very forgiving of FCP X since I saw it premiere live at NAB last year, and I’ve used it for a non-professional project, but now I’m trying to get it to work for a paying gig. I had some hickups with multicam, but I got that down now. I’ve got my edit, but my main angle had a direct audio feed plus a shotgun for ambient noise. I’m trying to separate the audio track so that I can mute or at least jsut turn down my shotgun, yet that option is greyed out. It’s also greyed out in the Angle Editor. I can turn off the shotgun’s track in the Info pane, but when I do that in the Angle Editor, that change doesn’t carry over to my multicam timeline. If I select the already edited clip in my Multiclip timeline, er, Storyline, it says “Unsuported Clip” under the Channel Configuration option. I jsut want to be able to edit and work with my two mono audio tracks individually. I have all the video already edited.

    Any help is much appreciated.

    Thanks,
    -Brian

    I’ll let you know if/when I get a response.

  • Neil Mcclure

    March 5, 2012 at 4:10 am

    You can edit a multicam clips’s audio. Once you create the multi cam clip double click on it in the events library, that will show all your clips contained in the multicam clip, you can then edit the audio, those changes are maintained when you edit your main storyline. Even if you have already edited all the sequence in the main story line you can go back and open up the multicam clip you created, make further adjustments and they will show up.

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  • Brian Kaempen

    March 5, 2012 at 7:10 am

    Neil, if I’m understanding you correctly, you suggest to select one of my clips in my multiclip storyline and select “Reveal in Event Browser”. Then from there, double click to open it and edit the audio there. If so, that doesn’t work. It opens up the Angle Editor, which won’t let me separate the audio tracks there either. I need to be able to manipulate the two tracks from my EX1 independently. In fact, I already tried what you suggested and picked the lesser of two evils and just turned off the track I wanted quieted in the Angle Editor from the Audio section of the Inspector. So in my Angle Editor, only my best audio track plays back, but that did in fact NOT carry back over to my multicam storyline.

  • Mark Morache

    March 5, 2012 at 3:11 pm

    Yes, I discovered, as I explained, that you can go back and adjust the individual audio tracks, but that yes, you must go back to the event, then double-click to open the clip in the angle editor, then once inside the angle editor, select the clip with the audio, and open that in timeline view mode, and adjust the separate audio tracks in there.

    I found that the changes I made to the audio in the angle editor migrated to the clip already in my timeline.

    It’s rather awkward, but it works.

    If you aren’t hearing your changes, I wonder if you have the correct multicam clip selected for audio monitoring. If you make the changes to one angle’s clip but monitor the other angle you won’t hear the changes.

    ———
    Don’t live your life in a secondary storyline.

    Mark Morache
    FCPX/FCP7/Xpri/Avid
    Evening Magazine,Seattle, WA
    https://fcpx.wordpress.com

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