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Multicam – “Expand Audio Components” removes filters, pan and levels from Multicam sync timeline
Hi. My name is Russ. I used to know what I was doing and how to edit. I still do, just not in FCPX. I’ve got a personal project that I’m working on and thought I should do it in FCPX. Please be patient with me as I have no idea of the new FCPX lingo yet.
So here is my first issue I need help with.
I created a multi-camera timeline with two video angles and two audio sources, one stereo and one mono. In the cool little multi-cam sync timeline window that I seem to love because it at least resembles traditional tracks, I mixed the audio using levels, pan, and a couple of audio filters.
Next, I brought the multi-cam clip into a project and started cutting it up. Then I thought I would play around a little and I clicked, “expand audio components” on the multi-clip. It showed me the audio tracks I had selected, but it also removed all of the work I had done on them. No filters, pan, or levels were applied to them. When I collapsed the audio components, it still had none of the filters, pan or levels from the multi-clip timeline window.
Does anyone know of anyway to get back to having the audio in my multi-clip in the project to reference the settings (pan, levels, filter) of the multi-clip audio of multi-clip sync timeline? Just hitting undo isn’t the answer I’m looking for. I want to know how and why it broke that relationship.
Am I making any sense?
Thanks
-Russ
Russell Lasson
Colorist/Digital Cinema Specialist
Color Mill
Salt Lake City, UT
http://www.colormill.net -
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Alright. I’m wrong 🙂
Audio levels and filters are still there. But the pan is gone and the nice stereo mix I had in the multi-clip timeline is playing back as a mono mix in the project. The audio levels in the project also seems lower than they are in the multi-clip timeline. Is there a master audio level for a project somewhere?
-Russ
Russell Lasson
Colorist/Digital Cinema Specialist
Color Mill
Salt Lake City, UT
http://www.colormill.net -
When you double click the multi cam clip and go back into the angle editor, all the work there is gone? Or are you possibly just not monitoring the right audio angle. Only one audio angle can be live at a time.
I’m unable to recreate the issue. For example, I have a simple multi clip, with two camera angles. I open the angle editor and add a spaceship audio effect to the track I’m using for audio. I go back to the main timeline, show audio components (which shouldn’t show any audio adjustments btw, this is the raw audio tracks, pre adjustments, but yet an additional place to make adjustments) and then close the audio components and still I hear the spaceship effect. It doesn’t undo any of my work just because I looked at the audio components.
If you right click on the clip, and change the audio angle, is your work back?
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Yep, I think you’re monitoring the mono track and not the stereo one.
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Thanks Bret. I decided not to worry about adjusting the pan or levels in multi-clip timeline. I just applied a basic compressor filter and then mapped each audio track (2 lavs and 1 boom) to each be mono. Then when I go to the multi-clip in the project, I can choose the tracks in the channel configuration and then select how to pan them there.
I know something strange was happening, but it was probably part user error as I’m trying to wrap my head around how to work in FCPX.
Thanks,
-Russ
Russell Lasson
Colorist/Digital Cinema Specialist
Color Mill
Salt Lake City, UT
http://www.colormill.net -
Did you apply these adjustment to the audio components in the multiclip or just to the audio on the clip?
There’s a difference between expanding an audio component and expanding the audio. An audio component drills down to the channel level and adjusting the “general” audio on a clip will effect all the channels on the clip.
Making adjustments to the audio on a video clip is different than making adjustments on the audio component of a video clip. Hope that makes sense.
It’s confusing at first, powerful when understood.
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