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  • Multicam edit NIGHTMARE

    Posted by Uvi Orogun on January 18, 2011 at 1:34 am

    OK, I am totally exhuasted watching every multicam available tutorial on Youtube and reading from everywhere. All I want to do is edit in multicam setup.

    I follow every step mentioned, BUT when I click on the timeline (cmd+3) and hit space bar to play the timeline so I can simply click through my angles to cut, ONLY the canvas window plays, the viewer window with all four clips just stay stationed and updates when I hit stop (space bar) again.

    At first I thought maybe it was my old mac but now with a new mac, still the same problem and no found solution yet from me after searching google etc.

    What can I be doing wrong please?

    All my clips are of the same frame rate, resolution, codec.

    I made multiclip by selecting my desired clips, chose in point as my linking option.

    dragged multiclip into timeline, double clicked on it to open in viewer, selected “open” where gang and snyc is.

    I pressed CMD+3 to now switch to timeline and making sure the playhead is at the beginning of the timeline then hit the space bar to play the timeline.

    Now the timeline plays, the canvas window is playing BUT the viewer window isn’t updating in realtime (Viewer window isn’t playing fullstop. It only jumps to where I hit stop (space bar).

    Please what can I possibly be doing wrong?

    Sequence setting is Frame Size: 512×256, Aspect Racio: Square, Compressor: REDCODE

    I REALLY appreciate any help as I’ve run out of option so am using this forum as last hope.

    Thanks a bunch!

    Joel Wiersema replied 14 years, 10 months ago 7 Members · 14 Replies
  • 14 Replies
  • Steve Eisen

    January 18, 2011 at 1:46 am

    It’s your sequence setting.

    Steve Eisen
    Eisen Video Productions
    Vice President
    Chicago Final Cut Pro Users Group

  • Michael Sacci

    January 18, 2011 at 1:46 am

    You have to be using a codec/resolution that is RT playable, don’t believe you got that. Test with 3 or 4 .mov clips that match codec, framerate and resolution ProRes or DV something that is a true video, if it works that it is your clips that are not compatible.

    So I’m pretty sure only 1920×1080, 1280×720 or 720×280 will work. (of course PAL and DVCProHD equivalent will also work)

  • Uvi Orogun

    January 18, 2011 at 1:52 am

    Yes, I thought so too so I changed the sequence settings to standard DV pal to allow RT playing and hence, set the “multiclip playback” on but still the same thing. Now my original clips where shot on the RED camera so natively, they are on the REDCODE codec, but am assuming that since I changed my sequence settings to the desired Multicam compatible setting, it should work fine, no?

  • Shane Ross

    January 18, 2011 at 1:56 am

    You can’t cut grab the RED PROXIES and start editing with them. There is a specific workflow for this, and that isn’t it. They aren’t the proper frame size for RT playback.

    Shane

    GETTING ORGANIZED WITH FINAL CUT PRO DVD…don’t miss it.
    Read my blog, Little Frog in High Def

  • Uvi Orogun

    January 18, 2011 at 1:59 am

    So what do you suggest Shane? I am no way near as experience as you are, I thought I can cheat the system by editing RED proxies then relinking to the full res to save processing power, rendering etc. What workflow can I use to edit the High res file and minimise rendering but able to use multicam editting?

    Thank you so much.

  • Shane Ross

    January 18, 2011 at 2:24 am

    Go to Reduser.net and look up the Whitepaper workflows. I haven’t done a multicam RED edit. But I do know you do NOT use those proxies.

    Shane

    GETTING ORGANIZED WITH FINAL CUT PRO DVD…don’t miss it.
    Read my blog, Little Frog in High Def

  • Thom Obarski

    January 18, 2011 at 2:42 am

    I have; you’re gonna want to batch all your footage to a real codec; go ahead and use redrushes since i’m guessing you don’t have a redrocket; set a small frame size (your instinct for dv would work) and compressor (low end prores is perfect) if you want to do an offline/online edit; or just go ahead and use proresHQ or higher at full size if you want to cut/color online; either way maintain your frame rate; once that batch is done relink your existing edit to your new files and all your syncing work you’ve already done should be fine so long as you don’t change any timecode data.

    “This is post, you can’t fix it after this.”

  • Uvi Orogun

    January 18, 2011 at 3:08 am

    Thank you Thom and all who contributed, I appreciate it. Thom, I think thats pretty close, I just downloaded the red rushes and am currently in the process of transcoding to Apple Pro Res 422 and downscaled to 1920×1080 as am delivering on HD anyways. Hopefully when that is done in 24 hours time, I can then edit in FCP and fingers crossed, Multicam will have mercy on me for the first time and work!

    Will let you all know.

    Thanks!

  • Uvi Orogun

    January 18, 2011 at 3:46 am

    Hi Thom,

    Thank you again for this nessage, just what I needed to know. Can you PRETTY PLEASE, share abit of light on the offline/online edit process? Am thinking of batching in redrushes a small frame size as i guess it will be quicker to export out then edit those offline. Once completed, i’d relink to the 2k res files. Is this possible? Would the reinking work?

    Thanks a bunch!

  • Michael Sacci

    January 18, 2011 at 5:25 am

    Didn’t see how many angles you are working with, but HD even ProRes needs faster drives once you get past 2 angles so keep that in mind.

    What drives do you have? How many angles?

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