Multicam Edit Issue– upon inserting the multiclip into timeline it becomes unrendered..

[Tom Wolsky]

Please provide complete information of your system, your computer, amount of RAM, your drives, your camera/deck, how everything’s connected, the exact format of your media, frame resolution, frame rate and codec, and the exact format of your sequence settings, frame rate, frame resolution and codec. Also what versions of FCP, OS and QuickTime are you using.

All the best,

Tom

Class on Demand DVDs “Complete Training for FCP6,” “Basic Training for FCS2” and “Final Cut Express Made Easy”
Author: “Final Cut Pro 5 Editing Essentials” and “Final Cut Express 4 Editing Workshop”

[David Bogie]

Welcome to the family of frustrated multicam newbies.
Most of the issues with multicam are simple user errors. The red render bar indicates your clips do not match your sequence settings. You have not provided enough information for either me or Tom to suggest anything else.

Apple’s approach to multicam is clear as mud but, I must say, it works and it’s fun once you get it rolling. It’s just not as easy or intuitive as Apple wants you to believe.
Suggest you start with shorter clips, say, 30 seconds max, and follow the setup very carefully, step by step. It’s all too easy to leave out one subtle step. And remember that the editing you do in the timeline is an effect. Once it renders, you cannot go back and easily re-edit the cutting until you unrender or delete the render media.

bogiesan

[John Schlue]

thanks guys. It was getting quite late and my brain was fried.

I’m on a Imac g5 2ghz with 2gb of ram. HardD has about 150 gb of open space.
FCP is 5.1, quicktime is 7.5.5. OS X 10.4.11
The files I’m using are originally from flipvideo cams which come in as a avi. I’ve reformatted them into quicktime mpeg-4 files.
–you’ll have to excuse my ignorance but I’ll try and provide the next info to the best of my knowledge. If there are simple ways to explain where I access any missing info via the program please tell me.
Playback settings:
RT: safe, vquality: low, frame rate: quarter.
Memory and Cache
App: 100% (1839 mb)
Still: 100% (1689 mb)
Thumbnail: disk 8192 k
ram 1024 k

Render Control
Frame Rate: 100%
Resolution: 100%

I’m unclear of the codec.
As mentioned above the clips were from flipvideo cams and have been formatted into quicktime mpeg-4 files.

I hope this is a bit more thourough. I greatly apppreciate you taking the time to consider my problem. Again, if there is any info I am missing please inform me and I will to the best of my ability track it down.
Thanks so much,
John

[John Schlue]

thanks guys. It was getting quite late and my brain was fried.

I’m on a Imac g5 2ghz with 2gb of ram. HardD has about 150 gb of open space.
FCP is 5.1, quicktime is 7.5.5. OS X 10.4.11
The files I’m using are originally from flipvideo cams which come in as a avi. I’ve reformatted them into quicktime mpeg-4 files.
–you’ll have to excuse my ignorance but I’ll try and provide the next info to the best of my knowledge. If there are simple ways to explain where I access any missing info via the program please tell me.
Playback settings:
RT: safe, vquality: low, frame rate: quarter.
Memory and Cache
App: 100% (1839 mb)
Still: 100% (1689 mb)
Thumbnail: disk 8192 k
ram 1024 k

Render Control
Frame Rate: 100%
Resolution: 100%

I’m unclear of the codec.
As mentioned above the clips were from flipvideo cams and have been formatted into quicktime mpeg-4 files.

I hope this is a bit more thourough. I greatly apppreciate you taking the time to consider my problem. Again, if there is any info I am missing please inform me and I will to the best of my ability track it down.
Thanks so much,
John

[Tom Wolsky]

MPEG-4 is not a format that is natively supported by FCP. It’s not a production format, I have no idea why someone would tell you to convert to that. You should convert to one of the formats FCP uses. Open your original media into the QT player and go to movie info and find out exactly what this material is an report back. You haven’t even told us if this is SD or HD.

All the best,

Tom

Class on Demand DVDs “Complete Training for FCP6,” “Basic Training for FCS2” and “Final Cut Express Made Easy”
Author: “Final Cut Pro 5 Editing Essentials” and “Final Cut Express 4 Editing Workshop”

[John Schlue]

Tom,
here are the specs from the original footage:
Format
XviD (3ivx), 640 x 480, Millions
Microsoft ADPCM, Mono, 44.100 kHz

FPS: 30
Data Rate: 3845.63 kbits/s

normal size: 640 x 480 pixels
actual size: same

all standard def.

Thanks again,
I do appreciate the help!
JSloo

[David Bogie]

Those stupid little Flip cameras are gonna kill us round here the day after xmas.
You can search the form for the camera model and its weird codec for hints on how to bring footage into FCP. I think most successful applications use MPEG Streamclip, a free format convertor.

> XviD (3ivx), 640 x 480, Millions
Microsoft ADPCM, Mono, 44.100 kHz< A few posts I've checked mention the "Mac version of 3ivx" is useless or even toxic. My workflow suggestion is to find the original files from the camera, hopefully they're on a PC and not a Macintosh. Run them through a convertor to create an interchangeable file such as plain old conventional DV. bogiesan

[Heidi Laubscher]

Not an expert, but I have found that sometimes when I manipulate the angle of one of my clips prior to making a multiclip, I get the “UNRENDERED” effect on all the unmanipulated angles. So I rather edit the whole thing and then manipulate each clip used from that angle afterwards, by copying the settings once and pasting its attributes into the other clips.