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  • Multi-cam shoot matching the line cut??

    Posted by Mark Linthicum on August 30, 2009 at 5:50 am

    This is a tuff on!

    I am working on a Multi-cam shoot and have all my footage in a Multi-clip and can not figure out a easy way to match the line cut (The cut they did Live during the event). i thought I would just drop the line Cut and Multi-clip into the timeline on top of each other, scale them both down put the multi-clip in the top right and the Line Cut in the bottom left and cut away to make the Multi-clip match the Line cut, but this does not work as after every cut the Multi-Clip expands back out to fill the whole canvas. i then thought i would leave the Multi-Clip full size and put the line Cut on top, small and to the right. but this creates another problem. When in “Open Mode” (the mode you need to be in when doing Multi-Clip), it opens my Line Cut in the viewer and only 1 camera from the Multi-Clip filling the viewer with one camera so i cant see the other cameras to do the switching! i am now just cutting by hand at each edit and looking at the thumbnails that at created at each cut in the Line edit and turning that track off, then matching the Multi-Cam to what i see in the thumbnail but this is difficult and slow!

    Anyone have a better way?

    Thanks, Mark

    Thanks, Mark

    Bouke Vahl replied 16 years, 8 months ago 5 Members · 6 Replies
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  • Bouke Vahl

    August 30, 2009 at 8:02 am

    Pardon my lingo, but…
    Seems like a fine example of bad preparation.

    Why find out now, not before the shoot?

    You could have use my LiveCut application, and then you would have an EDL (or in combo with Andreas, a ready done multicam XML) that matches the line cut.

    A way cheaper method was to record the direcors sound to one of the iso’s, so you could just edit like the shots were called.
    (If they indeed called all the shots…)

    But why do you need to redo the entire line cut? Is the quality so bad you have to go back to the originals?

    Bouke

    https://www.videotoolshed.com/
    smart tools for video pro’s

  • Michael Sacci

    August 30, 2009 at 9:05 am

    I actually recut an entire line cut on a multicam project. I’m shoot 7 cameras and line count, I just make the one cut one of the angles. I go in and cut apart the entire line cut, each and every edit is cut for the entire program. Then I just go back and select the matching camera that was used for the line cut. In the end I have and iso’d edit, which I then fine tune, change out bad shoots and most importantly color correct more easily. It may sound like this is a long process but you can fly through it and doing it right at the start means less work in the end.

  • Nick Meyers

    August 30, 2009 at 11:42 am

    i’m just trying this now, in response to your question.

    auto-select is a part of the solution,
    saved motion favorites are another

    i put the lineo-cut on V1,
    and the multiclip on V2.

    V2 is auto-selected, V1 is not.

    V2 is small box sitting over line-cut which is full screen.

    when i see an edit in the line-cut,
    i Control V to put a cut in the multi-clip, (no need to select, thanks to auto-select)
    and select the angle from the viewer.

    as you say the multiclip goes full screen.

    but now i just hit Q to toggle back to the canvas,
    and then i invoke a saved motion favorite,
    which makes it a small box again.
    again, no need to select the clip, thanks to auto-select.

    the trick is to set the box how you lie it.
    double click that clip into the viewer,
    safe a motion favorite (control f)

    this appears in your favorites bin in the effects tab of the browser.
    you can, and should re-name it.
    for simplicity’s sake make sure it’s the upper-most motion favorite in your favorites bin,
    and now you open the keyboard layout manager (option h)
    and assign “motion path favorite 1” to a shortcut that’s easy and fast for you.

    there are probably other variants of this process that would also work.

    nick

  • Glenn Grant

    August 30, 2009 at 3:04 pm

    I agree with Michael.

    I cut a lot of programs that start with a line cut, but need to be trimmed down to a specific length. Making the line cut part of the multi cam makes it easy to find the same spot in all the clips at once.

    Depending on your project you don’t even did to cut up the line cut. Just cut to the proper camera angle every time you see the line cut change angles.

    Hey, I just figured out how to get ride of my Legacy Name!

  • Mark Linthicum

    August 30, 2009 at 7:14 pm

    Thanks for the good ideas!

    i did not know you could “Save Motion Fav”, this could come in handy!

    I think the best thing for this situation is to add the Line Cut to the multi-cam and just mimic it. i was going to do this but I needed to be rendered out to the same codec as the rest of the multi cam to be added to the mix!

    i wish i would have recored the Director calling the shots. i would like to se the software that would take the EDL to FCP!

    Thanks, Mark

    Thanks, Mark

  • Bouke Vahl

    August 31, 2009 at 1:14 pm

    Mark,
    The LiveCut app. can be downloaded here:
    https://www.videotoolshed.com/?page=products&pID=29

    But there is only a Windows demo.
    Mail me direct if you want a Mac version.

    Keep in mind that to connect it to the switcher, you need a custom IO board.
    (I can send you one if you like)

    Bouke

    https://www.videotoolshed.com/
    smart tools for video pro’s

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