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  • Multi Cam Editing in FCP 7 w/Canon HG10 & HG20 problem.

    Posted by Michael West on June 18, 2010 at 4:41 pm

    All:
    I am trying to follow Richard Harrington’s tutorial here regarding muti-cam edit. I have sent him a message regarding this, but I also want to throw it out to the gathered gurus. He says frame size must be the same. When I import from the Canon HG20 into FCP, it comes in at 1920×1080. But when I import from the HG10, it comes in at 1440×1080. After much searching through tutorials and, yes, especially reading both manuals, I set all the parameters the same for both cameras (I thought) and expected them to record at the same frame size. I appear to be incorrect. Anybody here have any idea how to fix my problem, or should I just save up for another HG20?
    Thanks for any help you can provide.
    Michael

    Michael Sacci replied 15 years, 10 months ago 3 Members · 7 Replies
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  • Michael Sacci

    June 18, 2010 at 4:53 pm

    1440x is a thin raster, it is expanded on playback. To fix this you would need to convert it with compressor to full raster.

    There are 3 things that must match, Resolution, frame rate and codec. So when you do the resolution make sure you are matching the codec also.

    I don’t know about the cameras, but I did a quick check and the specs for the 10 said it did 1920x.

    All that being said, matching cameras for multicam shoots is a much better, cleaner way to go.

  • Michael West

    June 18, 2010 at 5:26 pm

    Michael:
    Thanks for the prompt reply.
    I’m eventually going to go with the “same camera” idea.
    Sell the 10 and get a 20.
    In the interim, the footage I shot is of my Granddaughters dance recital, so I’d like to try to multicam edit, if for no other reason than learning… and the fact she’s my jewel.

    Both cameras are set to 24fps, Cine Mode, and both are AVCHD.

    I’ll play with Compressor and see what happens.

    (sound of dusty manual opening, coffee brewing, and a childish sigh of resignation)

    Michael West

  • Mike Raff

    June 18, 2010 at 5:29 pm

    It might help if you explain the process you employ to transcode the AVCHD files the Canon produces into something FCP can edit.

    But Rich is right that you cannot have two clips of two different formats in the same sequence.

    How much do you know about Compressor? Sounds like you’ll have to use Compressor to convert the HG10 clips to match the specs of the HG20 clips (or maybe vice versa would work better).

    Good luck!

    Mike Raff
    Richmond, VA

  • Michael West

    June 18, 2010 at 5:37 pm

    Mike (it’s good to have so many Michael/Mike’s on this forum):
    I’m not sure what you mean by “process you employ to transcode the AVCHD files the Canon produces into something FCP can edit”.
    I’m guessing I probably missed a step somewhere in my learning curve.
    This is the first time I’ve employed the two cameras for one shoot.
    I hook the wire from the camera to the laptop, Log & Transfer the footage, and wait for it to download.

    If it’s in the manual, let me know and I’ll go digging.
    Thanks.
    Michael

  • Mike Raff

    June 18, 2010 at 5:54 pm

    Michael,

    You’re on the right path. I just wanted to make sure you were going the Log & Transfer route, rather than converting the AVCHD files by some other means.

    When the L&T window pops up, you can clip on the little gear like disclosure triangle and click on Preferences. This will show you if the AAVCHD Plugin is installed and give you the option of transcoding to Apple ProRes 422 or the Apple Intermediate Codec. ProRes 422 is fine for your purposes, although you’ll discover that the transcoded files are much larger than the original AVCHD files.

    To get you through Compressor, you might want to use the search function on this forum (I think there’s a separate Cow forum on the subject of Compression, but not one specifically for Apple Compressor).
    But what you’re probably looking to do is export your HG10 clips to Compressor, look under Settings window for Other Workflows>High Definition, select a setting (HD Uncompressed 8-bit 1080i60–or whatever matches the HG20), then check in the Inspector window under the Encoder tab to check the specs (it should say Width: 1920, Height: 1080).

    Hope that helps.

    Mike Raff
    Richmond, VA

  • Michael West

    June 18, 2010 at 6:08 pm

    To all the Mike’s (and the other folk as well):
    Thanks for all your help.
    I appear to have a full weekend ahead of me.
    Manuals have a function beyond being coasters after all, it seems.
    Best to you all.
    Michael

  • Michael Sacci

    June 18, 2010 at 10:32 pm

    Don’t get to bogged down, in compressor there are ProRes for Progressive that you start with.
    Apple>Other Workflows>Apple Codecs>

    Make sure in the geometry tab the Dimensions (encoded pixel) is set to 1920×1080 instead of “source”

    That will expand the 1440 to full raster. As always do a short test to make sure they are what you need and both match.

    And second Mike, did you call me Rick?

    How many Mikes does it take to encode a video?

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