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  • MPEG STREAMCLIP Settings

    Posted by Matthew Burgoon on February 3, 2011 at 7:03 am

    Hello,

    I was wondering about MPEG Streamclips settings for converting a video file to FCP. I use Mac the Ripper to rip the DVD, and it gives me a .VOB file that I stick into MPEG Streamclip to convert, and before I convert it, it gives me a bunch of random options to decide on.

    like should I use Interlaced Scaling or Reinterlace Chroma? ( they were both checked by default) For the frame size, I just keep it at whatever default it gives me, which is 720×480 (DV-NTSC) but some of the DVD’s I’m ripping are 4:3, so should I manually change that or just let MPEG do its thing?

    V/R
    Matthew Burgoon

    “Nothing in the world is more dangerous than sincere ignorance and conscientious stupidity.”
    -Martin Luther King, Jr.

    Matt Campbell replied 15 years, 6 months ago 5 Members · 7 Replies
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  • David Roth weiss

    February 3, 2011 at 7:13 am

    There’s absolutely no reason to use Handbrake and then Streamclip. Streamclip rips DVDs and turns them into whatever QT file you desire.

    [Matthew Burgoon] “should I use Interlaced Scaling or Reinterlace Chroma?”

    If you are ripping to DV there’s no scaling involved, and I don’t think Reinterlace Chroma can hurt.

    [Matthew Burgoon] “For the frame size, I just keep it at whatever default it gives me, which is 720×480 (DV-NTSC) but some of the DVD’s I’m ripping are 4:3, so should I manually change that or just let MPEG do its thing?”

    DV is all 720×480, either 4×3 or anamorphic, and if it isn’t flagged properly after ripping it’s a simple matter of checking or unchecking the anamorphic checkbox in the FCP Browser to make it right. If you’re thinking 640×480, that’s just a pixel shape thing that’s handled automatically in FCP.

    David Roth Weiss
    Director/Editor/Colorist
    David Weiss Productions, Inc.
    Los Angeles
    https://www.drwfilms.com

    POST-PRODUCTION WITHOUT THE USUAL INSANITY ™

    A forum host of Creative COW’s Business & Marketing and Apple Final Cut Pro forums. Formerly host of the Apple Final Cut Basics, Indie Film & Documentary, and Film History & Appreciations forums.

  • Matthew Burgoon

    February 3, 2011 at 8:27 am

    I didn’t know MPEG actually ripped DVD’s, does it do it even with the protected DVD’s? (I’m editing together a pitch for some exec’s)

    And one final question, sometimes, after bringing in the converted file from MPEG into FCP, the sound is out of sync. Why is that?

    V/R
    Matthew Burgoon

    “Nothing in the world is more dangerous than sincere ignorance and conscientious stupidity.”
    -Martin Luther King, Jr.

  • Paul Jay

    February 3, 2011 at 10:11 am

    It’s not ripping.

    When you open a Video TS folder of a DVD there are VOB files.

    You can drag these files directly in Mpeg streamclip.
    Or you can just choose Open DVD media.

    I never have sync issues with Mpeg streamclip.
    Use DV50 or ProRes SD as codec.

  • Chris Tompkins

    February 3, 2011 at 11:40 am

    Every once in awhile when I rip a DVD it’s outta sync, I don’t know why. Just re-sync it yourself.

    Use these settings here:

    Chris Tompkins
    Video Atlanta LLC

  • Matt Campbell

    February 3, 2011 at 2:41 pm

    Matthew, what settings you use depend on what your ripping. For protected DVDs, you must use something like MCR to break the protection. But be careful, this unlawful. After ripping (protected DVDs only) use MPEG Streamclip to convert. If the DVD is not protected, use MPEG Streamclip first.

    Now here’s where it gets tricky. Usually MPEG Stream will recognize the format of the DVD. But sometimes, it does not. I do this all the time as well, so use codecs that are edit friendly like DV50, as mentioned before, or even something like ProRes 422 or the new ProRes LT. If this is for presentation purposes, ProRes LT is sufficient enough. And is less taxing on your CPU than regular ProRes 422.

    As for size, stick with 720×480 settings. Anything else, like 854×480 or 640×480, can be problematic in FCP to edit with. Everything on DVD will be a SD size. Either 4:3 or anamorphic 16:9. If 16:9, check the anamorphic box in FCP after import. I always uncheck Interlaced Scaling because I want to work with Progressive material. And most of what I rip is 24p (23.976) Progressive. You can always check the Deinterlace Video box if the DVD you ripped is Interlaced. The resulting file will be Progressive. But be careful, this doesn’t always yield great results. So might be best to just let it be.

    Hope this helps. And let me know if you have any other questions. I use this workflow on a weekly basis. The key is to make it as close to a regular workflow as possible. Meaning as close to regular footage shot from a camera. FCP likes the normal codecs and normal frame sizes. Anything straying away from the norm can cause headaches later.

    OS 10.6.3, Mac Pro 2 x 2.66 ghz quad-core intel xenon, 16 gb ram, with BM Intensity Pro card

  • David Roth weiss

    February 3, 2011 at 3:59 pm

    [Matthew Burgoon] “does it do it even with the protected DVD’s?”

    Probably not, but I’m not sure about that one.

    [Matthew Burgoon] “sometimes, after bringing in the converted file from MPEG into FCP, the sound is out of sync. Why is that?”

    Never had that issue with Streamclip, but many report that with Handbrake.

    David Roth Weiss
    Director/Editor/Colorist
    David Weiss Productions, Inc.
    Los Angeles
    https://www.drwfilms.com

    POST-PRODUCTION WITHOUT THE USUAL INSANITY ™

    A forum host of Creative COW’s Business & Marketing and Apple Final Cut Pro forums. Formerly host of the Apple Final Cut Basics, Indie Film & Documentary, and Film History & Appreciations forums.

  • Matt Campbell

    February 3, 2011 at 4:14 pm

    Matthew, to what David said, In my opinion Handbrake is great with creating various formats for multiple uses, like mobile devices, iPods, iPhone, Droid devises and such, but I feel that MPEG Streamclip is easier to use when creating FCP, edit friendly formats. Less menus to worry about and like he said, I’ve never had sync issues with Streamclip. But have encountered them with Handbrake.

    OS 10.6.3, Mac Pro 2 x 2.66 ghz quad-core intel xenon, 16 gb ram, with BM Intensity Pro card

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