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  • MPEG 2 renders are white w/choppy sound!

    Posted by Kelly Johnson on January 17, 2008 at 10:00 pm

    We will be uploading to DGFastchannel who has provided specs but no templates or help in checking to be sure we send the right thing.

    Our outsource guy has said that only Episode Pro has seemed to ‘pass’ their tests in receiving files. To be complete, DG did mention two other software titles but all are pricey.

    I’m amazing that neither FCP nor Compressor can deliver in an acceptable broadcast format, but regardless, a couple of things we are able to do in CS3 made us happy but renders are white (no video) and the audio is choppy.

    These are the specs required and we’ve found most of them within AECS3 so we want to try and see where we’ve gone wrong to get white renders:

    Encoding MPEG-2 Preferred 18 Mb/s
    Scanning 480 60i (upper field first)
    Pixel Aspect Ratio 0.9
    Aspect Ratio 4×3
    Chroma 4:2:2
    (MP@ML) (720×512)
    GOP All Allowed, IBBP preferred
    Frames per second 29.97 (NTSC)
    Stream Type Program Stream
    Audio-MPEG-1, Layer 2 384kb/s Stereo
    Audio-Dolby AC3 NA
    Digital Audio Level* -20dBfs
    Luminance Level Max 100 IRE
    Chroma Level Max 120 IRE
    Setup level 7.5 IRE
    Timecode Not Used

    So.. we’ve set all those parameters (w/exception of luminance and Chroma level Max as we’re not sure where/how to do that in AE)

    Thanks for any insight

    Kelly Johnson replied 18 years, 7 months ago 3 Members · 6 Replies
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  • Kelly Johnson

    January 17, 2008 at 10:59 pm

    Thanks. Who mentioned Encore? Who mentioned doing Mpeg2 for dvd?

    Those specs I put in the message were copied and pasted from their spec-sheet and is what our outsource guy has been providing. It’s MPEG2 for broadcast, a different animal than MEPG2 for dvd… like pecan versus apple pie… both are pies, but both are different.

    Almost every spot we’ve done is really edited in After Effects with only basic stuff done in FCP, at least that’s what he told us and judging by the files we got from him, that’s at least his workflow.

    Then again, when doing spots for BMW, Chevy and Ford, there is more eye candy needed for pop rather than storytelling but FCP is definitely the main baby.

    Anyway, I’m just wondering why video isn’t showing up at all in the render and why the audio is screwed. That’s why I posted here in After Effects but provided all the other info just for background.

  • Steve Roberts

    January 18, 2008 at 1:16 am

    Well, usually white video means QT can’t read the codec. Which codec are we talking about again? Rendered from AE?

  • Kelly Johnson

    January 18, 2008 at 5:40 am

    The file source is a QuickTime with Animation compression.

    It is interlaced when playing in the QT player (the source file) but it doesn’t show up at all when rendered.

    Within the AE environment, it plays in RAM Preview, scrubbing etc and other renders work fine.. it’s just when we tried all the MPEG2 settings, it doesn’t show.

    We probably will get the software but I want to know why the render from AE isn’t showing when in the working AE file, all does?

  • Kevin Camp

    January 18, 2008 at 4:19 pm

    you are rendering from ae straight to mpeg-2, right? not through quicktime, as mpeg-2…?

    if you tried to render as qt, and try to find mpeg-2 in the qt options, it’s not there, right?

    this means you haven’t purchased the mpeg-2 codec for quicktime… i think it is $20 from the apple store… i’m not sure if it is included in qt pro, but i don’t think it is.

    if you install that codec, you will be able to preview your mpeg-2s in quicktime.

    rendering to mpeg-2 from ae will not produce the best mpeg-2s. you can only choose 1 pass vbr, and the highest bitrate is 15mbps (just under your requirement). if you get episode pro, you will get better encoding, plus it will most likely render/transcode much faster than rendering in ae, and the workflow will be better (drag and drop, batch converting, etc…). you’ll get these done faster…

    now, if you purchase the mpeg-2 codc for qt, you may be able to create these with compressor… i don’t know what kinds of settings can be manipulated in the qt mpeg-2, at $20, i might buy it just to see.

    Kevin Camp
    Senior Designer
    KCPQ, KMYQ & KRCW

  • Kevin Camp

    January 18, 2008 at 5:01 pm

    it looks like the mpeg-2 codec for qt is just a decoder, so you won’t be able to encode using qt (or any software that use qt to encode to qt components). there was also a post saying that there was a 4gb file size limit, so any files larger than 4gb cannot be played back.

    you can, however, use the mpeg-2 component and qt pro to convert mpeg-2 content to another format (but i don’t believe that is much help to you)…

    but qt with the mpeg-2 component will allow you to view the mpeg-2s that you are creating (as long as they are smaller than 4gb), and it is only $19 at the apple store.

    you can see the specs here:
    https://store.apple.com/1-800-MY-APPLE/WebObjects/AppleStore.woa/wa/RSLID?mco=7E4F2D7D&nplm=D2187Z/A#overview

    Kevin Camp
    Senior Designer
    KCPQ, KMYQ & KRCW

  • Kelly Johnson

    January 19, 2008 at 4:39 am

    thanks.. I downloaded the free VLC media player and it plays fine and in the end, turned out great.

    Thanks so much.

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