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  • MP4 H264 Codec playing back unpredictably

    Posted by Tim Higgins on February 16, 2009 at 10:18 pm

    I currently work in Arch Visualization and am not very familar with codecs.

    Recently I have been trying to to write out an mpeg4/ HD H264/ 30 fps out of the Sorenson Squeeze trial.

    The video plays back on quicktime on my computer back horrible
    It constantly stutters like it is lagging out.

    But when I play it back on this cheap standalone player.

    “Western Digital – WD TV HD Media Player for USB Storage Devices
    Model: WDAVN00BN | SKU: 8993217 ”
    Link = https://www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage.jsp?skuId=8993217&st=hd+player&type=product&id=1218008588808

    It plays back wonderfully I do not understand why at all. I have a pretty good computer:

    Microsoft Windows XP /Profession x64 Edition / Version 2003
    Service Pack2 /Computer Inter(r) Xeon(r) CPU /X5355 @2.66GHz
    2066 GHz, 8.00 GB Ram/ Nvidia Quadro FX 4500

    HD – Quicktime movie trailers also playback awesome.
    I am confused and would greatly appreciate any help or suggestions anyone would give.

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    Elijah Stanfield replied 16 years, 8 months ago 3 Members · 12 Replies
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  • Daniel Low

    February 16, 2009 at 11:39 pm

    Have you tried playing it back on your PC using VLC?

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  • Tim Higgins

    February 17, 2009 at 2:51 pm

    Thanks,
    Just tried playing it back on VLC.
    I got a significant better result only slightly choppy every once in a while. Seems to be random now where the picture will sort of jolt.

    Now I am really confused.

    Ideally I would want the video to be able to be played back through QuickTime since most people would not be familiar with VLC

    More Info: The original video was created out of frames rendered then exported out of premiere as Quicktime Animation.
    Next the video is exported out of sorenson media encoder under the preset for Bluray 720P – Mpeg4 the only setting changed was the frame rate to 30fps to match the existing speed of my footage.

    I am not sure why quicktime can not play it back smoothly?
    I am still confused on why the video would randomly jolt yet still play back smooth on the usb player?
    Especially since movie trailers from quicktime that are encoded H264 playback well.
    I realize I am likely missing something simple just not sure what.
    I appreciate the help.

  • Daniel Low

    February 17, 2009 at 4:29 pm

    It could be that your data rate is too high if you chose a BluRay spec profile – What is the datarate set to?

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  • Tim Higgins

    February 17, 2009 at 7:19 pm

    The data rate is set to “10400 Kbps” The Method is 2-Pass VBR

  • Daniel Low

    February 17, 2009 at 8:12 pm

    Please can you provide complete details of your encoding profile.

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  • Tim Higgins

    February 18, 2009 at 5:23 pm

    The Profile Name is BD_720p24

    Format Constraints: None
    Stream Type: Non-Streaming (Not Hinted)

    Audio Side
    (Audio: Checked On

    Codec: ATSC A/52
    Data Rate: 640kps
    Sample Size: 16
    Sample Rate: 4800
    Channels: 5.1 )

    Video Side
    (Video: Checked On
    Codec: MainConcept H.264
    Method: 2-PassVBR
    Data Rate 10400 Kps
    Frame Size: 1280W x 720H
    Display Aspect Ratio Policy: Letter Box or Pillar
    Frame Rate: 30 FPS (The Preset was Originally 24fps))

    Only thing altered from the preset was the frame rate
    The original file is 720P in size with a square aspect ratio.
    Their is no audio in the original format

    Thanks for taking the time to help me out.

  • Daniel Low

    February 18, 2009 at 5:32 pm

    Any keyframe or IDR settings available?

    Try knocking the datarate down to 5000K/s – It’ll likely affect the quality some but at least we’ll see if plays better.

    IIRC the Apple trailers at 1080p are encoded at around 10Mb/s

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  • Tim Higgins

    February 18, 2009 at 5:51 pm

    Sorry did not do the advanced tab

    Here it is:

    (Key Frame Every: 240 Frames
    Auto Key Frame on Scene Change: Checked
    Slider between Rare and Frequent is set to:50

    AVC Profile: High
    Interlace Mode: Progressive
    Field Order: Greyed Out
    Encoding Effort: Best
    B-Frames: 2
    CABAC Coding: No
    Slices: 0)

    I am going to send a test now with the data rate knocked down.

  • Tim Higgins

    February 18, 2009 at 7:15 pm

    I sent a file with the data rate knocked down to 5000
    It plays a little smoother but still jolts, just not as much.

    So I’m guessing it is related to one of the other settings.

  • Daniel Low

    February 18, 2009 at 7:43 pm

    Mmmmm, all the other settings seem fine.

    I assume you unchecked audio encoding seeing there is none in the source.

    Have you tried playing it back on another PC?

    Is there a bunch of stuff running in the background on your PC?

    Grabbing at straws here as all would appear ok from your settings.

    Try another test using CBR, or lower the peak setting of your VBR datarate

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