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  • moving clips in the timeline will cause a lost of existing dissloves

    Posted by Clint Wood on November 23, 2006 at 9:03 am

    hi there,
    everytime i move a clip in the timeline, an existing dissolve at the beginning or ending of that clip will be lost. that’s really annoying, does anyone know a workaround?

    thanks in advance
    clintwood

    Matthew Skeris replied 19 years, 5 months ago 4 Members · 8 Replies
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  • John Pale

    November 23, 2006 at 5:19 pm

    Put an Add Edit in the space a short distance after the dissolve and move it, along with the clip. In Avid, unlike FCP and other systems, the space is not empty, it is Filler…so technically you are doing a dissolve to Filler.

  • Clint Wood

    November 24, 2006 at 7:52 am

    Thank you for your reply! So instead of clicking and dragging I need to click in the timeline to the correct position, hit H (make the edit), click twice (the clip and the filler) and THAN I can drag everything around. Is that right?

    This seems really circuitous…..

  • Sunriseseagull

    November 25, 2006 at 2:09 am

    I agree, is there any other workaround? Thanks!

  • John Pale

    November 25, 2006 at 5:47 pm

    No, other than switching editing platforms. Thats the paradigm Avid came up with long ago and they ain’t changin it.

    I suppose you could use keyframed opacity (either with the super effect or the 3D warp effect) instead of dissolves, but its not really much easier than using add edit.

  • Clint Wood

    November 27, 2006 at 7:48 am

    Thanks again for your reply.
    I still think this is really annoying, because there is another problem with your solution.

    Let’s say I want to move a clip with a disslove at the end. I need to let the end of the clip snap to a certain cut in an audio track. If I move the video-clip together with some frames of the “filler”, the clip won’t snap to the exact position.

    How do you come around with that? Re-add the dissloves everytime??

    thanks and bye…
    c

  • John Pale

    November 28, 2006 at 12:57 am

    mark the clip using the “T” key.

    Select the sequence icon in the upper right of the record monitor and drag it to the source monitor to make a subsequence.

    lift the original clip out of the timeline.

    edit the subsequence in the source monitor to where you want it be in the timeline.

    the dissolve will be retained.

    I know this isnt as convenient as sliding things around in segment mode, but thats all I got. What you want to do is not possible in Avid.

  • Clint Wood

    November 28, 2006 at 11:16 am

    ok, thank you for your detailled answer!!

  • Matthew Skeris

    November 29, 2006 at 4:28 am

    Moving clips to and from the Source monitor is fast, but does gets you back in trouble just as fast. IMO, the very best way to slide and snap highlighted segments is to use Trim mode’s Slide function. It has the advantage of allowing you to move and continually tweak your clip placement without losing those dissolves to Filler. IMPORTANT: by setting up your rough edit timeline with extra video & audio tracks, you will have ample room to checkerboard clip segments, which solves the problem your were describing. Good luck and have plenty groceries!

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