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  • Move Clips from the Timeline into a new Event

    Posted by Franz Krekeler on June 6, 2012 at 2:35 pm

    What’s up Folks,

    I’m working on this project about a Jazz band. So cut down the gig into the shots I want to put on top of the perfomance.
    The performance is a different project. So how I can create a new event, so i can work in the final project and just the clips i want into the timeline?
    I’ve tried everything from exporting xml to importing it. Plural Eyes gives me a error (negative duration).

    Any clues?

    Best Regards,
    Franz

    Laurent Hayot replied 11 years, 7 months ago 5 Members · 7 Replies
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  • Bill Davis

    June 6, 2012 at 5:22 pm

    Franz,

    I think you’re still struggling trying to operate X like it was a traditional NLE.

    The whole point of X is that you use keywords to narrow your clip focus – NOT dragging and dropping them into different timelines.

    Essentially in X, the storage space for your clips (the Event Browser) and the place where you do your timeline editing (Project/Storylines) have a relationship where the event library is always “upstream” and the Project is always “downstream” – so if you try to take stuff from a project and move it back up into an event – you’re fighting the “flow” of the program.

    The X way is to simply apply tags to your clips in the Event Browser with any sorting and focusing tags you want. This is totally flexible – there’s no penalty for tagging whole clips or parts of clips (ranges) nor for overlapping selections or associating a particular keyword with multiple keyword collections. Then you can use those keyword collections to “focus” your event browser to just the clips you want to work with.

    This completely avoids having to “sort” clips into projects by dragging them back upstream into the event browser – it’s just unnecessary if you use the program as it’s intended.

    Hope that helps.

    “Before speaking out ask yourself whether your words are true, whether they are respectful and whether they are needed in our civil discussions.”-Justice O’Connor

  • John Davidson

    June 6, 2012 at 6:05 pm

    To get the clips you’ve already worked in quickly keyworded, select each clip, then his “Shift – F” your in/out of the selected clip will open up in the browser. From that point, just assign a keyword (cmd+k) will open up the keyword selector.

    Lots of tutorials about keywords, just wanted to show you that your work isn’t ‘lost’ so to speak.

    John Davidson | President / Creative Director | Magic Feather Inc.

  • Franz Krekeler

    June 6, 2012 at 6:14 pm

    Thank you both for your fast reply. I think this a big downside of FCPX. I like it because of it’s intuitive handling and because of the speed.
    But this is a big problem for me. I don’t understand why for example Plural Eyes creates a whole new Event with compound clips of your sequence…
    but there is no way to do in an other way then shift f. Shift F only works with one clip and i got like 50… I don’t know which NLE to choose.
    I dislike Premiere because of some difference (used to cut in FCP7) and also there is no ctrl+d to change the duration…

    I’m still open for suggestions. Thank you anyway.

  • John Davidson

    June 6, 2012 at 6:23 pm

    The way I described you can have all 50 clips built with keywords tagged in about 5 minutes. Then you can use it for all eternity. Just make a custom keyword collection in the place of cntrl+1 like “Clipped Shots”. It’s STUPID easy.

    Like this:

    Hi CMD+K to open up keywords
    Next to Cntl+1 in the keywords window is a blank space – type in Gig Clips or whatever you want it called.
    Select the first clip in the project (timeline).
    Hit Shift+F
    Then hit Cntl+1
    Your clip has been added with correct in/out to the keyword collection.
    Select next clip, repeat process starting with Shift+F.

    In the end you’ll have a keyword collection with ALL your clips from the sequence ready to go. You select the keyword collection, drag it into any new project, collect the money. Easy.

    Projects aren’t exactly tied to events the same way as sequences were in projects in legacy FCP. It’s different. I’m still figuring it out too.

    X forces you to embrace metadata (favorites and keywords). You can fight it, but in the end resistance is futile.

    John Davidson | President / Creative Director | Magic Feather Inc.

  • Bill Davis

    June 6, 2012 at 7:29 pm

    [Franz Krekeler] “I think this a big downside of FCPX. “

    Well, we disagree. Being forced to think about tagging assets FIRST – and then assembling them into projects (which is the primary workflow in X) is nothing short of brilliant. Because the work you do in the event browser persists with the Event and is available to all your subsequent projects.

    The biggest hurdle people have in coming to X from ANY other NLE is breaking the old thinking that “editing” means opening up a timeline putting clips on it and doing all your editing there.

    In X that’s not how things work. Instead you can “pre-edit” with tags to a level of precision just like working in the timeline while still in the Event Browser – and every “editing” decision whether cuts, trims color corrections or keyword applications will stay in the event browser ready for any project you want to use it in.

    Once you get used to this – you’ll realize that the fact that your editing decision could ONLY live in your timeline in Legacy was unnecessarily limiting – since your decision were ONLY available when you had an individual project open.

    X changes that – and it’s a change vastly for the better, IMO.

    “Before speaking out ask yourself whether your words are true, whether they are respectful and whether they are needed in our civil discussions.”-Justice O’Connor

  • Jeff Kirkland

    June 6, 2012 at 11:51 pm

    And keep in mind it’s only a problem because you’re new to FCPX and didn’t do it the right way to start with. Next time you’ll know better and sort all those cutaways using metadata instead. Consider it a part of the learning curve.

    As to which NLE to choose, I can only repeat what others have said, you need to think and work differently to make the most of FCPX. It would be a shame if you abandoned a great NLE because you haven’t taken the time to get familiar with how it works.

    Jeff Kirkland | Southern Creative Media
    video * audio * post * production
    Melbourne, Australia

  • Laurent Hayot

    January 16, 2015 at 10:28 am

    Hello Franz,

    With the new version of FCPX (10.1.3 and later), you can now open the project (timeline) in which you’ve made your selections, then select your library and click on the search window, and display all clips used in your project by selecting “used media” in the pop up menuof the search window.
    Then, the browser will show you all the clips that are being used in your project. From there, you can easily drag your selected shots into different keyword collections.

    Hope it helps.

    All the best,

    Laurent Hayot
    From https://www.phoenixpost.net

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