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Mouth replacement?
Posted by Byron Purvis on January 14, 2009 at 10:30 pmI wasn’t sure where in the forum to put this, so please forgive me if it’s out of place. What I want to do is take a photo of someone and replace their mouth with video of someone else’s mouth … just like they do on late night talk shows. I would prefer to be able to do it “live” like a real interview, but I’m sure that’s harder and probably requires some new hardware. I have Final Cut and After Effects, and I’m using a Canon HV20. Any ideas on the best way to go about it?
Thanks in advance!
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Mark Suszko
January 14, 2009 at 10:57 pmIf this is a conversation versus a monologue, what I’d do is record both sides in the same room or within earshot of the two speakers, so they can hear each other and judge their delivery timing. If the replacement lips person can keep their head still, it is a huge help. Some type of strap or neckbrace or padding to keep the head immobile will be helpful for this.
I did this gig once with analog tape and a simple Grass switcher and I put my replacement mouth person on the carpeted floor, on their back, with carpeted apple boxes kind of wedging his head so it would stay still. Set a soft edged oval wipe around the lips and done.
The rest after that is cake in plain old FCP. Just put that guy on another layer, mask him off with a matte generator or wipe, and keyframe the positon, rotation, and scaling to taste. You wouldn’t necessarily need AfterEffects for this at all, on the primitive Conan O’Brien-type level.
If the head (and thus the mouth) won’t stay still, then the motion tracking and matching abilities of AfterEffects or Apple Motion become needed.
Something you haven’t yet considered maybe: teeth versus no teeth, and how much interior mouth you want to show. You can look up the old Synchro-vox technique used for Clutch Cargo and Space Angel, basically, that was using special colored lipstick and chromakeying the lips over still animation cels in realtime. The teeth generally didn’t show. The actors listened to pre-recorded tracks and lipsynched to them to get the mouth shapes done.
For a more realistic look, you’ll show more interior mouth. A well-known example for this would be the opening title sequence of singing lips from The Rocky Horror Picture Show…
(By RKOoooooo...) But I digress…
…That look in “Rocky” can be a little too real and detailed, and depends on geat dental work and etc. to look good in closeup. In a medium to wide shot, maybe not as big a problem.
Just pointing out that your look has a lot of variables to consider, and that will drive your choice of techniques used…
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Byron Purvis
January 15, 2009 at 5:45 amWow, huge help. Thanks! Yeah, it’s totally for comedy, so I’m thinking more of the Conan O’Brien look is what I’m after. The laying on the floor trick sounds like a good idea. I was going to tape a towel onto a lighting stand for padding and rest my chin on it, but laying on the floor might be easier. I’ll probably try both 🙂
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Byron Purvis
January 15, 2009 at 11:27 pmHere’s my first attempt… https://vimeo.com/2834852
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