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  • Motion is SLOW…too slow for this rig

    Posted by Beelaster on June 29, 2005 at 3:22 am

    7 layers of particle emitters. That’s it. And controls are slow. The clip is 731 frames long, but a small portion of that has efx on it. Is 2.0 any better control-wise?

    *no other apps running

    *tons of RAM here

    What is the key to a smooth workflow with this app?

    Thanks for your replies…

    Bee

    G5 dual 2.0/5.5gig/sonnet allegro FW800 PCI/3X250 LaCie FW800 extreme/AJA Io/Horita BSG-50/DSR-45/DSR-11/M-Audio Delta 1010LT/JVC Hi-Res Ref Monitor/stock Radeon video card/Prod Suite/Logic 7.1

    Beelaster replied 20 years, 10 months ago 8 Members · 14 Replies
  • 14 Replies
  • Naz

    June 29, 2005 at 5:01 am

    maybe you should try to buy 7 PC’s, install particle illusion on them and hook to video mixer… 🙂

    All the best, sorry for my english

  • Doyle Rockwell

    June 29, 2005 at 5:38 am

    Hey Bee,

    Seven layers of particles is nothing to sneeze at. That’s a rather large simulation, and when you’re several hundred frames into it and make changes, the simulation has to recalculate the affected particles again from the beginning, which can make it laggy. That’s just how simulations work.

    Is the lifespan of the particles optimized? Are they living for a long, unnecessary time after leaving the frame? That can result in a huge particle layer being rendered, even though only a small part of it is visible. Toss on some filters and you’ve got Motion rendering multiple high-res objects, which will slow things down even more (especially with a so-so card). Try to optimize your project a bit, and remember that several particle simulations isn’t trivial.

    With great power comes great responsibility, etc 😉

  • Noah Kadner

    June 29, 2005 at 8:55 am

    Also- stock video card is not the best for Motion. You need an X800 or 9800 256MB for max power.

    Noah

  • Doyle Rockwell

    June 29, 2005 at 4:10 pm

    Not be too contradictory, but I think you’ll find that the Nvidia 6800GT performs better than the X800 (for the same price), and it also supports 4K resolution and accelerated 16-bit rendering. Also, the 9800 with 256MB doesn’t seem to run noticeably better than the 128MB version.

    Clockspeed, pipelines, etc. have a lot of impact, not just total VRAM. For example, a classic rip-off in the PC universe is where a third-party will take a crappy card and tack a whole bunch of memory on it to try to pass it off as a powerful one, like a 5200 with 256MB RAM. Silly, eh?

  • Vincent Rice

    June 29, 2005 at 4:57 pm

    What other software do you imagine would do better?

    Your expectations are unrealistic due to inexperience.

  • Beelaster

    June 29, 2005 at 8:32 pm

    B> “Your expectations are unrealistic due to inexperience.”

    Intelligent response Vincent. Of course I’m inexperienced-that’s what help forums are for. OH…you thought the Cow was a place to wank irresponsibly, to serve as an OBSTACLE to learning instead of community building…If you need a stranger to feel your awesome processing power then you mustn’t be so sure of it.

    Have a nice day.

    G5 dual 2.0/5.5gig/sonnet allegro FW800 PCI/3X250 LaCie FW800 extreme/AJA Io/Horita BSG-50/DSR-45/DSR-11/M-Audio Delta 1010LT/JVC Hi-Res Ref Monitor/stock Radeon video card/Prod Suite/Logic 7.1

  • Beelaster

    June 29, 2005 at 8:41 pm

    specialcase-

    thanks for yr. response- I was making the mistake of running everything raw and huge instead of trimming where I could. You are right about life span- the clip got less bogged when I paid attention to particle life. In the end I managed to make eight particle emitter events cooperate happily. Most of it was a combination of learning to be judicious with the cake frosting and climbing the new app learning curve.

    FWIW-I know this is another post altogether, but, does the video card make such a significant difference?

    TYVM, Bee

    G5 dual 2.0/5.5gig/sonnet allegro FW800 PCI/3X250 LaCie FW800 extreme/AJA Io/Horita BSG-50/DSR-45/DSR-11/M-Audio Delta 1010LT/JVC Hi-Res Ref Monitor/stock Radeon video card/Prod Suite/Logic 7.1

  • Dan Luke

    June 30, 2005 at 2:03 am

    the video card makes a big difference. There is a site that quantifies the difference between cards running motion. I can’t recall the address but a goggle search would probably find it.

  • Scot Walker

    June 30, 2005 at 6:55 pm
  • Beelaster

    July 1, 2005 at 4:19 am

    TYVM 🙂

    G5 dual 2.0/5.5gig/sonnet allegro FW800 PCI/3X250 LaCie FW800 extreme/AJA Io/Horita BSG-50/DSR-45/DSR-11/M-Audio Delta 1010LT/JVC Hi-Res Ref Monitor/stock Radeon video card/Prod Suite/Logic 7.1

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