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  • Motion Bogs Down (How Can I Fix This?)

    Posted by Matt King on February 3, 2009 at 10:46 pm

    I am sure I am doing something wrong here…I just don’t know what it is. Here is what I am using:

    Mac Pro
    Model Identifier: MacPro1,1
    Processor Name: Dual-Core Intel Xeon
    Processor Speed: 3 GHz
    Number Of Processors: 2
    Total Number Of Cores: 4
    L2 Cache (per processor): 4 MB
    Memory: 2 GB
    Bus Speed: 1.33 GHz
    Boot ROM Version: MP11.005C.B08

    Motion 3.0.2

    My problem:

    Editing a project with only text and 2 pen strokes that I have fiddled with to move around with a Camera following it and audio. Everytime I touch anything on the screen I get the floating beachball and it takes 5 to 10 seconds for what I just clicked to actually happen. I click. Wait. Click. Wait.

    I have rebooted. I have fixed permissions. What else can I do to make this go away? This problem sometimes happens when I try and deal with large photos…but this time there aren’t any real big files. When I go to the Mac Store the machines there go as fast as the operator can click.

    ***Okay so since I posted this, the machine is acting as if nothing is wrong. What could have happened that it is working fine now? ***

    Thanks for any advice.

    Raven Plenty replied 16 years, 12 months ago 8 Members · 18 Replies
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  • Noah Kadner

    February 4, 2009 at 2:49 am

    I’d try a reinstall.

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  • Matt King

    February 4, 2009 at 9:33 pm

    I reinstalled according to how the Mac site recommended. It does not seem to have helped.

    In fact, the lag actually seems worse. Now the weird thing is in the past it will bog like this for a while and then things pick up long enough for me to get my hopes up that everything is fine…then it’s back to editing in mud with gloves on.

    Should I be looking at something else?

    -Matt K

    FCP 6.0.4
    Motion 3.0.2
    JVC GY-HD110
    JVC BR-HD 50
    Mac OS X 10.5.5
    Mac Pro 2 x 3 Dual-Core Intel Xeon 8 GB 667 MHz

  • Mitch Ives

    February 5, 2009 at 2:36 am

    Several of us are having the same problem. I’m quiting and restarting the machine often to fix the problem…

    Mitch Ives
    Insight Productions Corp.
    mitch@insightproductions.com

  • Colin Mcquillan

    February 5, 2009 at 7:24 am

    Try unloading your ram once in a while

    go Mark -> Ram Preview -> Clear Ram Preview

    I find this helps out bigtime when ever my system slows down while in Motion. It goes from stutter to snappy right away.

    Colin McQuillan
    Vancouver, B.C.

  • Mitch Ives

    February 5, 2009 at 2:08 pm

    Have tried that with limited success, but we’re willing to try anything at this point…

    Mitch Ives
    Insight Productions Corp.
    mitch@insightproductions.com

  • Matt King

    February 5, 2009 at 2:34 pm

    I appreciate the input. I feel that my problem is getting narrowed down.

    Before my post, I had gotten into a habit of clearing the RAM preview and things would work for a little while and also restarting the program and then restarting the machine. I have set resolution to 50 % and Half also.

    It became such a stumbling block to have to stop so frequently that I figured it must be something I was doing wrong or some set up on my particular machine that was funky.

    I did the re-install and it worked about as long as just restarting the machine does. I’m just curious how everyone else gets their machines to fly while I am stuttering along and what I need to change.

    -Matt K

    FCP 6.0.4
    Motion 3.0.2
    JVC GY-HD110
    JVC BR-HD 50
    Mac OS X 10.5.5
    Mac Pro 2 x 3 Dual-Core Intel Xeon 8 GB 667 MHz

  • Winston A. cely

    February 5, 2009 at 4:03 pm

    Do you have anything else running on the same machine that Motion is running on? I’ve found that iTunes will crash Motion almost every time. I try not to even have FCP open if at all possible. The only thing I can’t turn off at the moment is Mail.

    I was having really bad problems for almost a year, and as it turns out it was my graphics card (x 1900 xt). It was still under warranty, and Apple replaced it and now everything is running better than before. I can even let iTunes play in the back when working, though I still advise against it; I now let my tunes play through the PS3.

    Overall, I’m disappointed in how over-the-top particular you have to be in order to have the performance that’s advertised. From what I’ve read, every time there’s a major upgrade you have to wipe your hard drive completely, and reinstall the system not to mention the programs to have the performance that’s touted by Apple. I could understand doing maybe a clean install of the programs themselves, but I rarely hear that that works.

    Winston A. Cely
    Editor/Owner | Della St. Media, LLC

    Sound it out: Nu-clear, not nu-cu-lar.

    Mac Pro 3GHz Dual-Core Intel Xeon
    4 GB RAM | Final Cut Studio 5.1.4 | Aja Kona LHe

  • Matt King

    February 5, 2009 at 4:13 pm

    Yes. I usually have FCP open and sometimes even Safari (listening to Pandora). I will try shutting everything else down all the time and see how that works.

    How do a person (average guy) go about figuring if they have a bad graphics card?

    Thanks again for the input everyone.

    -Matt K

    FCP 6.0.4
    Motion 3.0.2
    JVC GY-HD110
    JVC BR-HD 50
    Mac OS X 10.5.5
    Mac Pro 2 x 3 Dual-Core Intel Xeon 8 GB 667 MHz

  • Winston A. cely

    February 5, 2009 at 4:26 pm

    I was having a multitude of problems; other than Motion slowing to the point of uselessness, I was getting static on my monitor, and eventually, I couldn’t start or restart my computer with the monitor plugged in. I had to unplug the monitor (30″ Apple HD Cinema) wait for the computer to finish starting up and then plug in the monitor. I had to call Apple support 3 times before they sent me a new card, and the third time was actually on accident. They were trying to transfer me to someone who was going to come to my office to check the computer out, but they transfered me to expert support instead. He said right off the bat they needed to replace my card so that was awesome.

    What graphics card do you have? I know there’s a new one out that ATI made that’s specifically made to run both Windows and Mac. I believe it’s the HD 3870. From what I understand it’s a great card especially for Pro-Apps. However, don’t expect to get as good a gaming performance as the Nvidia cards.

    Winston A. Cely
    Editor/Owner | Della St. Media, LLC

    Sound it out: Nu-clear, not nu-cu-lar.

    Mac Pro 3GHz Dual-Core Intel Xeon
    4 GB RAM | Final Cut Studio 5.1.4 | Aja Kona LHe

  • Matt King

    February 5, 2009 at 5:04 pm

    I have recently started seeing mysterious blue lines across one of my monitors, but it is infrequent. I will keep an eye on this too. Thanks for the information.

    The NVIDIA GeForce 7300 GT card is in this machine. The whole set up is 2 to 3 years old. Here are the specs for the nvidia…it might mean something to somebody:

    Chipset Model: NVIDIA GeForce 7300 GT
    Type: Display
    Bus: PCIe
    Slot: Slot-1
    PCIe Lane Width: x16
    VRAM (Total): 256 MB
    Vendor: NVIDIA (0x10de)
    Device ID: 0x0393
    Revision ID: 0x00a1
    ROM Revision: 3008
    Displays:
    DELL 2407WFP:
    Resolution: 1920 x 1200 @ 60 Hz
    Depth: 32-bit Color
    Core Image: Hardware Accelerated
    Mirror: Off
    Online: Yes
    Quartz Extreme: Supported
    Rotation: Supported
    DELL 2407WFP:
    Resolution: 1920 x 1200 @ 60 Hz
    Depth: 32-bit Color
    Core Image: Hardware Accelerated
    Main Display: Yes
    Mirror: Off
    Online: Yes
    Quartz Extreme: Supported
    Rotation: Supported

    -Matt K

    FCP 6.0.4
    Motion 3.0.2
    JVC GY-HD110
    JVC BR-HD 50
    Mac OS X 10.5.5
    Mac Pro 2 x 3 Dual-Core Intel Xeon 8 GB 667 MHz

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