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  • Most effective way to use two or more transition effects simultaneously?

    Posted by Tor Wong on September 13, 2010 at 1:54 pm

    Here’s my desired use case: I want to layer multiple transition effects because there are many times when I find one doesn’t quite give me the effect I want. For example, there are certain Sony Dissolve settings I like, but that transition effect doesn’t include a Blur slider, so I may resort to applying clip FX, or copying the clips onto another track, parallel above, reducing opacity to 50%, then using Blur as the transition effect for that layered instance. (It isn’t quite the same, but provides some “stackability”.)

    Are there any effective avenues I’m missing for combining two or more transition effects? I’m so used to using a chain of clip or track effects and have a feeling I’m not acknowledging something obvious and simple.

    Jonathan Thomas replied 15 years, 7 months ago 5 Members · 7 Replies
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  • Theo Van laar

    September 13, 2010 at 2:47 pm

    If I wanted to use a dissolve together with a blur tarnsition, I would simply add the dissolve as a transition and the blur as an video FX. The blur can be keyframed to be present only during the transition.

    But I’m sure John Rofrano can give you more ideas how to achieve what you want…

    Theo

  • Danny Hays

    September 13, 2010 at 5:19 pm

    I would do the exact same as you Theo. Your right though, John may be able to write a script for that. Danny Hays

  • John Rofrano

    September 13, 2010 at 10:16 pm

    But I’m sure John Rofrano can give you more ideas how to achieve what you want…

    lol… You guys give me way too much credit. I would do exactly the same thing the two of you suggested, i.e., simply add the dissolve as a transition and the blur as a video FX and then keyframe the blur to be present only during the transition. That’s as about as simple as it gets.

    ~jr

    http://www.johnrofrano.com
    http://www.vasst.com

  • Tor Wong

    September 13, 2010 at 10:35 pm

    Each and all of you rock, and I’m honored to learn from your experiences. Thanks for helping me problem-solve this.

    A couple related curiosities for now:

    (1) What should I do if an effect has no apparent “Reset To None”? As in, despite adjusting sliders and other controls, some of the effect is always visible? Is there a way to automate enabling the effect in the chain? (As I’m used to doing in Ableton Live.)

    (2) Is it a general rule that “Reset To None” is the same as having a plugin bypassed? In other words, if the effect isn’t visibly showing, no additional processing is taking place and it saves CPU power? Sometimes with 3rd-party plugins the answer seems to be no, as the preview becomes choppier even without visible effecting, but I haven’t found coding guidelines or other specs to substantiate this.

  • John Rofrano

    September 14, 2010 at 12:52 am

    (1) What should I do if an effect has no apparent “Reset To None”? As in, despite adjusting sliders and other controls, some of the effect is always visible? Is there a way to automate enabling the effect in the chain? (As I’m used to doing in Ableton Live.)

    There is no way to automate Enable on Video FX (like you can with ByPass for Audio FX). If there is no Reset To None preset then you need to find the minimal set of parameters to minimize the FX.

    (2) Is it a general rule that “Reset To None” is the same as having a plugin bypassed? In other words, if the effect isn’t visibly showing, no additional processing is taking place and it saves CPU power? Sometimes with 3rd-party plugins the answer seems to be no, as the preview becomes choppier even without visible effecting, but I haven’t found coding guidelines or other specs to substantiate this.

    No. Reset To None does not bypass the FX. The FX is still in the processing chain. It’s just that the current parameters are having little to no effect but the plug-in is still passing video from it’s input to it’s output.

    ~jr

    http://www.johnrofrano.com
    http://www.vasst.com

  • Tor Wong

    September 17, 2010 at 5:16 pm

    Acknowledged, thanks John! I think more video FX need to be better designed to allow for smooth transitioning in and out.

  • Jonathan Thomas

    September 21, 2010 at 5:09 pm

    I would also add…. go create this effect with you camera. Change your shutter speed settings in your camera, set your feet to pan at 180 degree with your camera set on manual and out of focus. If you ever film at a nightclub for a concert, focus on their RGB light setup. I have often created that whip pan effect and SFX by recording the different concerts lights setups. Using out of focus lights for transitions into other clips/events. An of course add the audio effect to sell that effect.

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