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More gasoline on the fire
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[Jeremy Garchow] “It is essentially a turn key operation for the red faithful. That’s about as far as it goes. “
Yes, but considering that they are Tekserve, that is very far indeed. Nothing like this would have happened a year ago.
[Jeremy Garchow] “If you call TekServe and you want windows but don’t shoot/post Red, you’re not going to get very far.”
Le me put that another way – if you don’t shoot Red and want windows why would you call Tekserve?
And the add on to all that is the key word – “yet” – you wouldn’t call them now, but they are moving in a direction that I don’t believe is going to be altered by Tim Cook’s awesome solution of 2013, so you might be calling them in the future.
Herb Sevush
Zebra Productions
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Frank, we are talking about the red Hp computer and nothing else.
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[Jeremy Garchow] “Frank, we are talking about the red Hp computer and nothing else.”
So do I. I don’t get your point.
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[Herb Sevush] “And the add on to all that is the key word – “yet” – you wouldn’t call them now, but they are moving in a direction that I don’t believe is going to be altered by Tim Cook’s awesome solution of 2013, so you might be calling them in the future.”
I see. So future speculation on all things non-Mac is a shoe in.
Got it.
All I’m saying is, this is essentially a branded turnkey computer. Sure, you could buy it an strip put all the stuff you just bought, but what’s the point?
Why would I call TekServe? Why wouldn’t I? They keep saying they will have windows machines, you yourself promoted the guy who was so giddy about selling HP machines, so why not?
I’ll tell you why you need a VAR for Windows machines.
Go try and build a computer on HP.com. I know just enough about this to get me in trouble, and HP.com is an absolute fiasco.
I’ve tried to build a z820 and a laptop, and rage quit my browser in frustration.
If pc’s are in my future, a VAR will be where I need to go as the amount of PC permutations is stifling.
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[Frank Gothmann] “So do I. I don’t get your point.”
Do you work with Red products exclusively Frank, from production to grade?
If not, why would you buy this?
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[Jeremy Garchow] “I see. So future speculation on all things non-Mac is a shoe in. “
I didn’t know that only Craig was allowed to speculate. I’ll see to it that I stop until I get my license.
[Jeremy Garchow] “All I’m saying is, this is essentially a branded turnkey computer.”
Yes.
[Jeremy Garchow] ” They keep saying they will have windows machines, you yourself promoted the guy who was so giddy about selling HP machines, so why not?”
An apparent misunderstanding.
They guy who was giddy was an HP rep speaking directly to the audience at the Adobe roadshow. He mentioned many things, the Z1 and the Red-HP were the most prominent.
He did not mention Tekserve, who were in a booth down the hall. I had a separate conversation with them, which was interesting to me because they are the VAR who sold me my first 2 FCP / Mac systems. The essence of my conversation with Tekserve was that I shouldn’t hold my breath waiting for anything on the MacPro side because they weren’t, and they were trying to come up with PC solutions for their old Mac clients, and ways to serve them that would take the sting out of switching to windows. The HP-Red was just their first step.
[Jeremy Garchow] “Go try and build a computer on HP.com. I know just enough about this to get me in trouble, and HP.com is an absolute fiasco.”
Absolutely true, been there, done that.
[Jeremy Garchow] “I’ve tried to build a z820 and a laptop, and rage quit my browser in frustration. If pc’s are in my future, a VAR will be where I need to go as the amount of PC permutations is stifling.”
Yes, the problem with choice is choosing. Using the Apple Store on line is great, unfortunately the computers are not. With PCs you generally have to talk to somebody – very retro I know, but it works, quickly and easily. You might want a VAR, you might just want a salesman. If you’re looking for a VAR you might want to try these guys:
https://www.pugetsystems.com/
https://www.adkvideoediting.com/They make it pretty easy and they come highly recommended.
On the other hand if I were in the market for a PC workstation and I hadn’t just recently bought both a Raid and an LTO, my first option would be the Promax One.
https://www.promax.com/s-149-promax-one.aspx
Herb Sevush
Zebra Productions
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[Jeremy Garchow] “Do you work with Red products exclusively Frank, from production to grade? If not, why would you buy this?”
You wouldn’t. This system is purpose-built for RED, and it’s coming soon to a DIT cart near you.
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[Jeremy Garchow] “Do you work with Red products exclusively Frank, from production to grade?
If not, why would you buy this?”
I don’t. And because of that I wouldn’t buy this machine. How is this different from an Avid turnkey system, ie. z820 with Nitris hardware? You obviously wouldn’t buy one of those if you had no intention of using MC or Symphony.
But it is nevertheless just a base z820 with a additional components. Nothing else is special there which is my point. A worksation is supposed to flexible and versatile, adding some stuff makes is perfect for something specific without limiting possiblities for other areas via design choice that might cause just that.
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The One in ProMax One stands for One Man Band.
Awesome specs, specific need.
I need a compelling reason to switch to pcs. No one has given it to me.
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[Walter Soyka] “You wouldn’t. This system is purpose-built for RED, and it’s coming soon to a DIT cart near you.”
It should be called the DIT, but that seems even more limiting than red only post.
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