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  • monitoring 2k offline FCP7/Kona3

    Posted by Joe Procopio on November 1, 2009 at 4:32 pm

    offlining feature 2k prores media @ 23.98. how do I get the 2k timeline out to a regular plasma for viewing…have Kona 3, also have Blackmagic Decklink, which we were using, but it crashed the FCP trying to go 23.98 to 59.94 out. i don’t see a similar setting on the Kona view settings…

    installed latest Kona drivers and software…although now that I think of it, i never uninstalled the BM stuff…gonna try that and see if maybe there was some conflict…

    but what would be the correct settings to monitor 2k out through the Kona to a 1080p Panasonic plasma? TIA..

    Walter Biscardi replied 16 years, 9 months ago 5 Members · 9 Replies
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  • Michael Gissing

    November 1, 2009 at 9:54 pm

    The Kona 3 manual tells you to unistall drivers for other I/O cards. They also give you a conflict checker application which you should run after uninstalling the BM drivers.

    You will find the output settings for the Kona 3 in the AJA control panel. If they are on 1080 output, they will display 2K files down converted on the fly to 1920 x 1080. There are some check boxes in setup for 2K and RED compatibility.

  • David Roth weiss

    November 1, 2009 at 10:19 pm

    Set the view settings to 1080i 8-bit.

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  • Arnie Schlissel

    November 1, 2009 at 10:58 pm

    [David Roth Weiss] “Set the view settings to 1080i 8-bit.”

    Prores is 10 bits.

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  • Arnie Schlissel

    November 1, 2009 at 11:04 pm

    [Joe Procopio] “offlining feature 2k prores media @ 23.98. how do I get the 2k timeline out to a regular plasma for viewing…have Kona 3, also have Blackmagic Decklink, which we were using, but it crashed the FCP trying to go 23.98 to 59.94 out. i don’t see a similar setting on the Kona view settings…”

    For the Kona 3, most of the settings you need to look at are in the Kona Control Panel. I think you can set the crop or scaling there, and you can also set your 23.98 to 59.94 conversion.

    With the Decklink, you need to change your playout setting in FCP to 2k 23.98 to 29.97i or 59.94P. This is done either in Final Cut Pro menu, choose Audio Video Settings, or all the way down at the bottom of the View Menu

    Arnie
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  • David Roth weiss

    November 2, 2009 at 1:18 am

    [Arnie Schlissel] “Prores is 10 bits. “

    Yes, but the monitor will most likely display 8-bits.

    David Roth Weiss
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  • Joe Procopio

    November 2, 2009 at 2:07 pm

    Kona installer did not ask to uninstall anything…but when I opened the FCP, there were no BM codecs…and I did run the conflict checker…and it didn’t find anything…

    the BM driver was still there, so i uninstalled them with the uninstaller program…

    Broadway Video, NYC
    AVID/FCP editor/engineer

  • Joe Procopio

    November 2, 2009 at 2:14 pm

    okay, so with the Kona…I didn’t see any 23.98 to 59.94 conversion in either the view settings in FCP or on the control panel…but i ended up having to stop my testing short since the client who wasn’t supposed to be in, came in, lol…figures…

    we have been running the BM card with the 23.98 to 59.94 conversion in the view settings…but we’ve been having problems…we get crashes every so often…and the canvas and output on the plasma both go green….

    we have been getting around some of this by sending the output to the preview monitor…(we use a 24″ LED Apple Cinema Display for editing, and have a 30″ Apple HD…)and that works well, but when others are in to view…they use the plasma.

    one other issue we have been experiencing in….you guessed it, drop frames…playing back 2k media on our san drops frames every so often….a workaround that I’m going to tell the editor is to edit in 1080p 23.98 instead of 2k sequences…that may help dropped frames….

    thanks for the responses and feedback!

    Broadway Video, NYC
    AVID/FCP editor/engineer

  • Joe Procopio

    November 2, 2009 at 7:41 pm

    i thought prores 422 was 8bit and prores 422 HQ was 10bit….

    Broadway Video, NYC
    AVID/FCP editor/engineer

  • Walter Biscardi

    November 2, 2009 at 7:44 pm

    [Joe Procopio] “i thought prores 422 was 8bit and prores 422 HQ was 10bit…. “

    Nope. Completely and utterly false. Both are 10bit. Always have been.

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