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  • David Roth weiss

    June 19, 2007 at 12:48 am

    I have an aversion to blogs, but in your case I’ll make an exception.

    Meanwhile, the MXO sounds interesting, but why can it turn the LCDs you mentioned into a broadcast monitor, but not a plasma?

    TIA,
    David

    “No job is worth doing more than once…”

    David Roth Weiss
    Director/Editor/Post-production Supervisor
    David Weiss Productions, Inc.
    Los Angeles

  • Shane Ross

    June 19, 2007 at 12:52 am

    [David Roth Weiss]

    I have an aversion to blogs, but in your case I’ll make an exception.”

    I understand completely.

    [David Roth Weiss] “Meanwhile, the MXO sounds interesting, but why can it turn the LCDs you mentioned into a broadcast monitor, but not a plasma?”

    Because they have different characteristics. LCDs and Plasmas do things in VERY different ways. But, with the new 2.0 software…you can get close I’ll wager. I’ll have to drag it into my office…or drag my laptop and MXO and CRT out to the living room to check one of these days I suppose.

    Shane

    Littlefrog Post
    http://www.lfhd.net

  • David Roth weiss

    June 19, 2007 at 1:09 am

    [Shane Ross] “Because they have different characteristics. LCDs and Plasmas do things in VERY different ways.”

    Sure, but I would imagine that it might actually be easier to get close with a plasma than with an LCD, simply because they are more CRT-like. But, if the MXO was designed for LCDs that would kind of kill my concept.

    “No job is worth doing more than once…”

    David Roth Weiss
    Director/Editor/Post-production Supervisor
    David Weiss Productions, Inc.
    Los Angeles

  • Matthew Mcnulty

    June 19, 2007 at 1:28 am

    this is a great discussion… yes i do already have the lhe… it is being under used because i use the hvx and firestore… kind of got caught in the area where by the time i afford the system… two or three months later p2 hit, the the firestore, then dvcpro hd qt to the timeline… nice

  • Sean Oneil

    June 19, 2007 at 7:23 am

    [David Roth Weiss] “VisualApex sells the BNC model and even gives all buyers free RCA to BNC converters in case they have the opposite issue — i.e using a consumer compenent cable.”

    As long as the RCA connectors and/or adapters are 75 ohms, it makes no difference.

    Sean

  • Sean Oneil

    June 19, 2007 at 7:25 am

    Since you have an LHE, you can get an SDI-DVI converter from AJA or Blackmagic, which will give you the same YUV-over-DVI output that a MXO will.

    Sean

  • Shane Ross

    June 19, 2007 at 7:30 am

    [Sean ONeil] “which will give you the same YUV-over-DVI output that a MXO will.”

    With one MAJOR difference. No software PRO AMP that will get you BLUE ONLY and the proper controls for adjusting the monitor for color correction.

    Or…hmmm…I think the HD Link from Decklink might have that in the software. I heard someone mention that, but I don’t know for sure. Don’t have one. That might be an option, since you have the LH card already.

    Shane

    Littlefrog Post
    http://www.lfhd.net

  • David Roth weiss

    June 19, 2007 at 7:46 am

    All we’re saying is consumers never know what to do with BNC connectors on monitors and we always want ’em to have BNCs.

    “No job is worth doing more than once…”

    David Roth Weiss
    Director/Editor/Post-production Supervisor
    David Weiss Productions, Inc.
    Los Angeles

  • Terence Curren

    June 19, 2007 at 12:30 pm

    Okay, I tried to not jump in here, but I couldn’t hold myself back. No magic box is going to make an LCD the same as a broadcast CRT. If it was possible, Sony and eCinema wouldn’t have a market for their 30K and 45K monitors that are coming out.

    First, off axis viewing goes to hell with an LCD. Trying to have the client and the operator both sit dead on is nigh impossible.

    Second, most LCDs do not have an even backlight. In other words, they have flourescent bulbs in the back so the light gets brighter and darker throughout the screen. You may not be able to easily see it, but it is there.

    Third, most of those lights cannot be set to 6504 kelvin which is the SMPTE spec for a reference monitor.

    Fourth, by design, an LCD cannot produce blacks like a CRT or even a projected film. Makes jusdging the blacks for those venues VERY difficult.

    Fifth, can you say 8 bit? Doesn’t matter if your software / hardware works in 32 bit float. The LCD panel is 8bit! In other words, when you see that banding you will never know for sure whether it is in your program or your LCD monitor.

    This is why SED technology should have been here two years ago. This is why Sony and eCinema are putting individual LEDs behind each pixel atgreat expense to try to emulate a CRTs response.

    I’m not saying you can’t do what you want to do on a cheap LCD, I just want to make sure people realize it DOESN’T match a CRT regardless of your magic boxes.

    Terence Curren
    http://www.alphadogs.tv
    http://www.digitalservicestation.com
    Burbank,Ca

  • Stuart Simpson

    June 19, 2007 at 4:09 pm

    [Shane Ross] “I think the HD Link from Decklink might have that in the software. I heard someone mention that, but I don’t know for sure.”

    It does indeed have a blue-only option, accessed via the software interface. Also settings for custom lookup table values, and colour settings. I have one, so I can confirm it’s existence.

    -Simmie
    2 G5 – Kona LH
    3 G4s – Cinewave
    1 xbox360, 1 PSP, 1 PS2 & a Gamecube
    https://www.speak.co.uk

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