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  • Modifying tracks-source files and tape names

    Posted by Jordan Dawes on December 14, 2009 at 10:58 pm

    AVID MC 4.0.2

    Ok, we shot on a RED camera. During production the RED had a single mic attached to catch a ref sync track. The production mixer also recorded 4 tracks of audio into his DEVA machine, which we will use as the production sound.

    So to sync the production sound to picture I needed to unlink the ref track media to Video, modify the tracks to lose the A1 ref sync track, so I could then sync the V1 with the new A1 from the DEVA production sound. The reason we got rid of the original sync ref is because when syncing more than one track it would make a Group clip which we did not want to mix up with the multi-camera group clips we will organize at a later date. All worked well up to that point.

    After this point, I realize that some of of the picture does not have ANY production sound to sync with, so I need to get back access to the RED camera audio clips (A1) that I took off for those takes.

    Is there a way to do this? I have tried to go in and modify again by adding A1 but then the “source media not found” dialogue box appears.

    I have also tried modifying the tape NAME, but after I did that and added the A1 track, the track would show up but without the media, only a flat line within the audio timeline, no waveform, no audio… any suggestions? Did I name the tape name/source wrong?

    Jordan Dawes replied 16 years, 5 months ago 2 Members · 5 Replies
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  • Michael Phillips

    December 15, 2009 at 12:11 am

    Usually bringing back the A1 track via the Modify Command brings back the audio if it is still on the system and not deleted. Did you highlight that clip and do a relink? This assumes you have not changed tape name or other other type metadata.

    For future reference, creating a V only subclips of the master clip is a better way to do this since you can always match frame back to the original clip and find the original VA1. This can be done as a batch via an ALE export, modify tracks, and merge back in as subclips.

    Michael

    Michael Phillips

  • Jordan Dawes

    December 15, 2009 at 12:29 am

    I have highlighted, modified and added the A1 and then done the relink but it does not bring it back, or at least it does bring back a flat lined audio track without the audio.

    I can see the media is still there via the media tool. Just not when modified.

    I have been wrestling with this now for a couple of days as I do not want to re-import the media on those elements that I am having issues with. Any other suggestions? I had heard that since it was saying “no source media” when I tried the relink that it needed a tape name… this was brought in via red files so there was none in that field. hmmmmm frsutrated, it seems no one has seen this before.

  • Jordan Dawes

    December 15, 2009 at 2:59 am

    I had originally tried the exporting of an ALE but that did not work within the text editors’ I used to then re-import the modified ALE (without the A1). The AVID would not accept the edit change and would not recognize the ALE. I did not change anything but the column the VA1 was in.

    So I had to modify the track within the Bin. I thought, and was told, that I would be able to turn back on the A1 track within the modify tool, but it will not reconnect or relink back to the audio files which are there in the media tool, but are not relinking correctly. The files are there, but they are not recognizing the audio associated with the file.

    Please help if you understand what is going on….
    Thanks…

  • Michael Phillips

    December 15, 2009 at 4:26 pm

    When the original file was brought it, was there any metadata associated with it at all via an ALE? That would create the TAPE MOB association at that time. Is that your procecss?

    Michael

    Michael Phillips

  • Jordan Dawes

    December 15, 2009 at 6:11 pm

    Originally the r3d files were brought into a FCP system then transcoded over to this PC avid via redrushes. The files were already on the drive when I started this show.

    For other media I needed to bring in I used metafuze to scan drives and then I created an ALE before bringing in that particular footage.

    The media I am working with is from the original files. So I don’t think the metadata they brought in was much if any.

    The real crux is when I try to relink the A1 track after modifying it, it says “no source media found”. Is there any workaround that you can think of or do I have to blow out that media and reimport it? That will be days of time wasted…

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